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Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#1
Hello everyone. Just a quick question because I can't seem to find the answer from anyone that I play with.

Which skill maxed out allows for faster energy regeneration? With my current Mage build I will be able to have energy sheild on at all times without it getting interrupted before I'm able to finish casting it. But that's besides the point.

All I really need to know are the rates at which each spell regenerates energy at 20/20.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Re: Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#2
To start off, I have an ES fire mage and only have one pt in each. I rely on my 2 or 3 energy sigil packs to regen my mana between fights. However I do cast them both often to help with regen.

It seems as though both energy boost and meditate gain only 1 mana per tick per skill level. Thats why I didn't bother putting points in it, even with 20 pts it is only around 5 mana a second.

However I noticed that the mana regen rate I get is faster then is shown on the skill screen.

In particular I should be getting 1 mana per tick for energy boost and I actually get 2. I should be getting 5 mana per tick for meditate, but I get like 13.

So it seems like Focus and/or ice magic ability increases the mana regen rate but it is not mentioned on the skill itself. I think this is a bug because things like firebolt damage does show an increase from the Focus bonus.

In conclusion it might be worth putting points into them because they will actually help your regen rate more than they advertise.

Wih my mage experience I would reccommend E boost because meditate only works outside of battles where you can just buy sigil packs for that, but sigil packs don't work inside battle.
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Re: Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#5
I think, if possible, energy sigils are a far better way to go. I mainly focus on dealing straight damage as fast as possible when in battle. This way, the battles are quick, and energy regen happens a lot faster outside of battle. Trying to make a mage to withstand long battles is like swimming upstream in my opinion, all the characteristics of the mage fight against you. Go 2vit/3energy on stats, all in lure fire, cloak, fireball, ice shards.. hit hard and get out quick. Any points you put into in battle regens, take away from damage dealing, and ultimately just keep you from regenerating outside of battle longer, where it is cheaper and easier to regen energy.
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Ooooh good question. i am struggling with this one myself. I am afraid that 20/20 points on energy boost will only give 20 points per tick. I dont know anyone who has done it yet so I cant speak to it completely. If it is true then it is of no value because one heroic regen amy would be the same as 20 skill points so why try. However, meditate for 6 per tick could be 160 regen. which in combination with a freeze spell would give you a chance to regen in a fight. I plan on using a few books to research the formulas but I am concerned they will change so don,t want to wast the plat.

I am about to make the change and my idea is that maxing out meditate might be the better choice, not for combat purposes but for leveling because you will be able to fight more mobs per hour due to the increased regen time, also during boss fight you can meditate and cloak others. Sacrifice is a choice but you will still have to regen the HP.
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Re: Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#7
Meditate is generally quicker but can only be used out of combat
Also don't relie on freeze to help you regen it's very short lived spell and it also allows your enemy to regen
I've bought a load more sigals to deal with my mana requirement I think it's prob the best way to go
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#8
Papi, well look back at my post, energy boost is doing roughly 2x what it says it does, and meditate is only doing about 2.4x. So they both are probably bieng increased by focus about the same.
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Re: Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#9
EB gives 1 point per tick +1 pt per level, and meditate gives 5 points per tick +1 per level. So after 20 pts EB would give 20 points per tick and meditate would give 25. My point is that it seems that with 250 points in focus the regen rate is boosted by 2.5x so EB actually gives 50 per tick and meditate would give 65 points per tick each at level 20.
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Re: Energy Boost or Meditate for max?

#10
Meditate does get increased by focus, however that increase should read and come up in the skill description, meaning that if you have points in meditate and change yer focus around you should see the energy/tick regen change. If it's not changing then the factoring in the code isn't working properly and they need to make sure it's working correctly both in the game and in the description.

Also it needs to be noted that the focus factoring isn't exactly correct in yer estimations, and there is a serious diminishing increase after 270-280 focus, meaning that up until that point you will see every 5 points of focus matter greatly to all spells but soon after 300 focus you will see you need to add about 12 focus to get what 5 used to give you, and so on till it's like 20+ focus :).

This isn't relative to what is better energy boost, or meditation per se, as focus effects both,but it is important to note when trying to make equations for points added.
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