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The skills hit so low that it shouldn't even be considered a dps boost. Plus the cast time. Sharp is supposed to be insta but takes about 1-2 secs to cast due to animation. Its sad to see it maxed and see 4k+ dmg on stat page then see it hit 400-500 on bosses. In that 1-2 sec cast time U could pull off 2 autos dealing so much more dmg

The skills hit so low that it shouldn't even be considered a dps boost. Plus the cast time. Sharp is supposed to be insta but takes about 1-2 secs to cast due to animation. Its sad to see it maxed and see 4k+ dmg on stat page then see it hit 400-500 on bosses. In that 1-2 sec cast time U could pull off 2 autos dealing so much more dmg

Was talking about rogue skills as dps increase

The skills hit so low that it shouldn't even be considered a dps boost. Plus the cast time. Sharp is supposed to be insta but takes about 1-2 secs to cast due to animation. Its sad to see it maxed and see 4k+ dmg on stat page then see it hit 400-500 on bosses. In that 1-2 sec cast time U could pull off 2 autos dealing so much more dmg

Was talking about rogue skills as dps increase

U on the wrong forum den._.

The skills hit so low that it shouldn't even be considered a dps boost. Plus the cast time. Sharp is supposed to be insta but takes about 1-2 secs to cast due to animation. Its sad to see it maxed and see 4k+ dmg on stat page then see it hit 400-500 on bosses. In that 1-2 sec cast time U could pull off 2 autos dealing so much more dmg

Was talking about rogue skills as dps increase

U on the wrong forum den._.

Nope. Was replying to Mamba on rogues skills landing low damage and that it does make a difference between Ranger and rogue on endgame bosses.

Why do you guys ALWAYS derail the posts about rangers problems???
This is a post about rangers broken skills. IDC AND IDGAF about your rogue skills.
Stop derailing other classes posts.
Go to rogue section.

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Such a general statement. Are you saying the skills don't matter at all on bosses. Yeah they hit low but it's a dps increase anyway regardless. Remember rogues have poison weapon/shadowstrike which 1v1 with a same geared ranger will guarantee a mord/hrung kill. Same for necro, sneaky rend or assassinate can make all the difference for a kill on that too. Edls are much more a fair ground for all 3 dps classes(bar a few which is most times a mage kill) . Autowise yes ranger beata a rogue handsome down but add the skills and the difference is much more.

You use alts and rebirth books for every mord and hrung? You don't have any real endgame toons on android yet, when ppl start getting edl quivers you'll see the difference

Such a general statement. Are you saying the skills don't matter at all on bosses. Yeah they hit low but it's a dps increase anyway regardless. Remember rogues have poison weapon/shadowstrike which 1v1 with a same geared ranger will guarantee a mord/hrung kill. Same for necro, sneaky rend or assassinate can make all the difference for a kill on that too. Edls are much more a fair ground for all 3 dps classes(bar a few which is most times a mage kill) . Autowise yes ranger beata a rogue handsome down but add the skills and the difference is much more.

You use alts and rebirth books for every mord and hrung? You don't have any real endgame toons on android yet, when ppl start getting edl quivers you'll see the difference

Yes most of us use alts and sometimes rebirths on mord...not usually hrung as hrung is a quick kill.

What is your definition of ab endgame toon?

^^ guessing rangers with edl quiver is his definition...?

I didn't notice a huuuuge dps increase from the runic quiver with edl... It's maybe 10% better.

I did break the 5k damage barrier with the quiver skill though

Well, for one, endgame toons typically aren't having to alt and rebirth every mord. They'd also have full edl and probably the wep as well. If you're talking top 5 melee dps on any ios world they'd all have edl mainhand and offhand, a mord helm, skain set or equivalent lux setup, attack and/or dmg braces, plus reaper ring.

I don't think android worlds are close to having any toons that meet this description, therefore what you experience on android as a top dps would be different from what you experience on an ios world. Savaged, 10% boost in dps is a huge difference I'd say. And it's gonna be more on a boss like necro or mord when divine dmg makes up a large portion of your dps. Point is, the higher "tier" dps you are, the larger the difference between rogues and rangers for auto dps. And I don't think the bonus skill dmg from rogues gets much better past the 50 skill point barrier

Well, for one, endgame toons typically aren't having to alt and rebirth every mord. They'd also have full edl and probably the wep as well. If you're talking top 5 melee dps on any ios world they'd all have edl mainhand and offhand, a mord helm, skain set or equivalent lux setup, attack and/or dmg braces, plus reaper ring.

I don't think android worlds are close to having any toons that meet this description, therefore what you experience on android as a top dps would be different from what you experience on an ios world. Savaged, 10% boost in dps is a huge difference I'd say. And it's gonna be more on a boss like necro or mord when divine dmg makes up a large portion of your dps. Point is, the higher "tier" dps you are, the larger the difference between rogues and rangers for auto dps. And I don't think the bonus skill dmg from rogues gets much better past the 50 skill point barrier

I'm aware of the fact android toons aren't as decked out as ios obviously ATM . What I meant is between an endgame rogue and an endgame ranger rocking similar gear,having dmg sets, helms, edl weps and reaper rings. Head to head. There isn't anything to say a Ranger is head and shoulders above the rogue just because their edl bow hits cap. Skills does decide, even if they land low is what I'm saying. The higher auto damage of rangers compared to rogues comes from the Pierce damage of bow,not the skain sets, not the dmg bracers, not divine damage nor armor heat damage(divine and blood set IS the main source of dps) . And we all know how much Pierce is resisted on raid bosses. It is true more offhand rogues at a fight means less dps individually for a rogue(TY OTM) and more for rangers, but if there's a good understanding between them and they rotate spites equally rather overriding then game changes.