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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#41

What other 5k dkp rogue? Why didn't that 5k rogue win the Imp Helm the first time?
Maybe the other rogue had a bit more than them? Maybe they didn't bid because they were waiting for void? Maybe the rogue was friends with the other and was going to let the other one have it? Maybe he did bid the same as the other rogue and lost the roll for the item as if you bid the same amount a roll determines winner.

That seems likes a pointless question
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#42
Maybe because I've never hard experience with a world that uses a point system? Where i come from you had to wait in line so excuse me for not knowing how your system works.
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#43
I just wanted to get an idea of how this point system works. It is also relevant to the topic so i see no problem with me asking that question either ignore it or answer it simple as that no need to start a fight here
Aeon's (and 99% of endgame clans') point systems only extend to Dragonlord, Exhalted Dragonlord, Raid Bosses, and the level 210 event bosses. Meteoric (Astral, Cosmic, Zodiac, etc) and Frozen Meteoric bosses are generally not included in point systems, as the levels required to obtain those armors are significantly beyond the endgame scope.



We tried a non-hidden bidding point system for Osan - it failed, as purposefully running people up was discouraged. I had the largest amount of points for the Druids, and won a Blazing necklace for the minimum amount of points as no one wanted to bet against me! Hidden so far seems to work well : you bid what the item is worth to you, knowing that if you and one other person bid high it will be expensive. This forced clannies to conserve their points and only use them for items they actually want and would use.

I personally really like Aeon's system - it is a good balance of bidding, rolling, and awarding those who camp.
Yep you managed 2 more points last event :D. No one else really wanted it for a high price I imagine and also our clan dosent have issues with bidding others up, it's the opposite in people won't bid so that others can have at prices which sometimes are far too low.

However it's not without flaws, this event I've managed to be on top of points in every class of toon as of today and we will see how the new system pans out.
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Level_____|200+|150-199|100-149|50-99|20-49|1-19|
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#44

What other 5k dkp rogue? Why didn't that 5k rogue win the Imp Helm the first time?
Maybe the other rogue had a bit more than them? Maybe they didn't bid because they were waiting for void? Maybe the rogue was friends with the other and was going to let the other one have it? Maybe he did bid the same as the other rogue and lost the roll for the item as if you bid the same amount a roll determines winner.

That seems likes a pointless question
Thats a lot of maybes. Bidding systems leaves a lot to chance and happenstance. Fact that collusion (just as you mentioned) could happen, price fixing and a lot of variables, to me bidding is the most flawed system of all dkp systems.
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#45
Maybe because I've never hard experience with a world that uses a point system? Where i come from you had to wait in line so excuse me for not knowing how your system works.
When players are posting about end game gear and void/imperial items, bosses like stonefang aren't even in the discussion
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#46
The only con I can see to the point system is it caters to players with more gaming available schedules. I played daily for years. Now I'm in a situation where I can't log frequently. If we did points, someone who had been playing a small fraction of the time but can play daily would blow past me in points. This would mean all the years I spent collecting points would mean nothing when a godly or imperial item dropped.
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#47
The only con I can see to the point system is it caters to players with more gaming available schedules. I played daily for years. Now I'm in a situation where I can't log frequently. If we did points, someone who had been playing a small fraction of the time but can play daily would blow past me in points. This would mean all the years I spent collecting points would mean nothing when a godly or imperial item dropped.
Yes, and thats completely fair. The one playing daily is the one contributing. Whatever you did one year ago shouldnt mean as much in the present, when a godly item that can benefit the clan goes to a daily player, that is preferable than going to a veteran that only login once a week. Clan first, individuals last.
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#49
The only con I can see to the point system is it caters to players with more gaming available schedules. I played daily for years. Now I'm in a situation where I can't log frequently. If we did points, someone who had been playing a small fraction of the time but can play daily would blow past me in points. This would mean all the years I spent collecting points would mean nothing when a godly or imperial item dropped.
You mean the more active and helpful person is geared appropriately? The injustice, i cant handle it!
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Re: Server Gear Distribution

#50
Voting, and no its not by ass kissing. I can show u flaws in both voting systems and dkp systems, Elementals of Belenus for years, always with the system of voting.
Flaw in dkp system?

And yea it's ass kissing lmao
U have just got to see a bunch of massive flaws in dkp system, and while we all know Epona's top clan's leader ass was wet from ur tongue, it doesnt work that way on Belenus.
Every system is flawed, rolling, dkp or voting, but each one has it's pros and cons while rolling has the most cons, and I personally prefer voting as long as its done right.
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