Celtic Heroes

lol taranis has gotten so bad that people from different servers are coming in to support the fact that Aeons and Pride have ruined taranis.

I actually think the majority of foreigners weighing in has to the fact that Taranis has not had an active discussion in a long time.. Forum action on Taranis? Who doesn't want to see this!

Taranis has never been bad.. we have lots of great raid drops and solid strategies and turnouts (we killed Mordris in 10 minutes today), our endgame players are not riddled with stress, and instead of bickering over lock fights and ffa drama we reach for greater goals. Let the kids play in the mud, and the adults focus on achieving more than petty war.

And if anything, Benevolence (if they decide to get out of Farcrag and step up their KSing campaign) might be the one to "ruin Taranis". Three years of server peace, three years of minimal conflict and amazing growth, lost to ffa? I would bet most servers could not make peace in the way Taranis has, and we have no intention of disintegrating what we have built and gained.

Aeons and Pride will eventually get over thrown by another clan that's had enough of the bs rules...

I recomend looking at the clan rankings.. In total Pride and Aeon have around 65 players able to reach Proteus and Gelebron. Meanwhile Benevolence lacks Druids and Rangers.. Funny how generally those who support FFA over peace are those with the dps capabilities.

So far the only rationale Benevolence has provided to change the rules stems from lies (all of which I have disproved). We are in no way forcing Benevolence to run their clan a certain way, and they are welcome to not have clan property rules if they so desire.

Better watch out Aeons and Pride. Once people come to their senses... Your fked

Benevolence is not the first clan to try and take down one or more of the endgame clans on Taranis.. Let's see:

1. KingdomOfAlba (Directed at Versus - dominant clan alongside TheILLUMINATI)
2. vvvvVvvvv
3. Synergy
4. Prototypes (for a little bit - directed at Pride)
5. Nexus (for a little bit - directed at Pride)
5. Equilibrium (who actually has the same gens as Benevolence.. They returned from their year-long break)
6. Benevolence

What usually happens is a few underleveled hotheads (some are actually passionate for their cause, but most are not) decide to wreck some havoc, they condemn the endgame clans and ks mobs and for a while think the endgame clans fear them and can't sleep due to nightmares caused by these rebels, but after a while they see that their efforts don't change a thing - their raid boss ks attempts fail, the endgame clans are only getting stronger, and eventually the little band of rebels realize the injustice that despite how easy it looks on paper, it is just as difficult to send a peaceful server into ffa as changing an ffa server into peace. At this point we usually see the leaders of the rebel clan suddenly go inactive or transferring to another server, and a few months after this all began Taranis breathes a sigh of relief. Peace again at last.

Well done bullying a clan into disbanding because they stood up to you. It seems however that these new and normal players are going to overwhelm you, as any Clan like yours would be on other servers.

How are we bullying them? We don't allow them to join raid boss rotations (which they condemn), we don't allow them to join camp groups (which they condemn), we do not spread lies (which they do to us), we do not threaten them (which they do to us), and we do not ks their elixirs (which they do to us). We are not bullying them, we simply are not changing any of our rules for them.

It takes approximately 650 elixirs (162.5 hours of constant grinding) to acheive level 220, not to mention getting gold for lux and finding pieces for quest armor/weapons (which for rogues is very pricey). Assuming Benevolence does not disband and they attract the support of every newcomer in Taranis, I predict that Aeon, Pride, ParadogZ, and Nexus will not have a problem with Benevolence becoming the dominant clan until at least 2017.

Your clans are now the luaghing stock of CH, people on my server are already astounded at how absurd and selfish your clans are

Well of course, just as we are astounded by the absurdness of FFA servers! Being in the USA, I think the command economy of China is absurd, but if I lived there I may have a different opinion. It is simply a difference of culture. As for us being selfish.. You have already read my counters to that claim, and if you want to discuss those I would happy to.

OTM is also to blame in this, perhaps if they kept a closer eye on servers they could prevent clans like yours from limiting and excluding other players ability to play the game..

To be honest, we are far more liberal and inclusive than most other servers. We don't exclude players from camping and bossing because they are not in the dominant clan, and anyone can join a clan and get raid drops. The only people excluded are those who either steal from the clans with property rules (the one person who was blacklisted by disrupting raid bosses has not played in years), and all they have to do to be re-included in camping and killing bosses is to return their stolen raid drops. How is that unreasonable? If they want to be in a clan without no clan property rule, then they can join one without that rule. If they are fine with that rule, then they can join one with it.

How dare any of you think that you should impose your "rules" on anyone. Unless everyone agrees you have no right

You said it yourself - unless everyone agrees. Everyone who joins Aeon agrees to the clan property rule, and those who don't are welcome to join another clan. Trock agreed to the rule (knowing he could leave and we would completely understand), joined the clan, attended bosses, received raid gear, and then left the clan and refused to return the gear. Now he is here spreading misinformation about our systems and rules.

Hello, Eldorado here. Just want to tell all, that FFA SERVERS ARE NOT BAD. Ever since my switch to a ffa server, I've already obtained full edl and have supporting clan members who go out of there way to help. Clans do have to fight for locks but that's what makes the game fun. If you just get things handed to you in life on a silver platter, fed to you with a silver spoon. Life would be dull and boring. I noticed many members from Taranis just sit around in castle, or they don't even log as much anymore. It gets boring when you repeat the same routine over and over again. Like yea WOOO more drops, and you get strong. But after that its just the same routine, rotating and rotating. To the point where you are asking yourself is this whole rule system worth it?
In my opinion those saying FFA servers suck. You can bet that from my experience being here in this server Taranis, and then switching to a FFA server that I've had Way way way more fun on the FFA server then here in Taranis. Yes I've locked battle, yes it was fun. Yea we win some we lose some. But it's always the thrill to run in there and fight. And come out with something. Sometimes you come out with nothing but the whole clan just pats eachother on the back and says good try guys. Yea some people get butt hurt but things happen and it's only just a game. Other systems are much easier, For Example, DL and Edl is voted on, rather then working for so many points just to get one piece of armour, if you lvl and you work hard and help clan. Then you will be awarded. Simple as that. The whole clan prop thing aswell, does not happen on a few other servers. Players are able to have freedom on trading and selling items, and things are very straightforward. You work for it then it's yours.--- I watch taranis and I see all my friends people that I love, slowly quitting. Or getting angry with the server rules. Its time to rethink the way the server is being run. I do not by any means want to bash. Just putting it out there. That maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for a change. Since well, Taranis is losing many players. And becoming less active. I've read all your points and views on the server rules and system. Just putting my opinion out there. -Yawn- goodluck guys.

Under leveled hotheads seems to fit the description. They do seem to be sitting in farcag all day don't they lol, or on forums so it seems. You know I did a little bit of my own mathematics you know put two and two together and it seems like I'll be seeing Trock420 in arcane sanctum in like 9-13 months. Lol just realized the 420 in his name, how fitting lol. If only he was so impulsive towards leveling our server might see some change ;(

you want to isolate Taranis from the rest of the servers,

How does this make sense? We don't prevent people from contacting or playing on other servers, we don't discourage people from viewing the forums, and a fair amount of people from other servers come to play here. Not many leave Taranis because not many want to leave!

you blacklist players that you wrongfully accused of wrongdoing

I can assure you this, Aeon has never wrongfully accused someone of stealing our clan property.

Our generals are very organized and devote huge amounts of time to clan bookkeeping.

you blacklist people that leave your clan with "clan" property and whatever clan they join has no chance whatsoever on progressing,

Half true.. we only blacklist people UNTIL they return the property. Once they do that, they are welcome to join a clan, make a clan and apply for raid boss rotations, join DL camp groups, and all the other peaceful priveledges of the endgame.

Blacklisted players can join clans, however most endgame clans will not accept them. These rules don't prevent other clans from progressing, they prevent a player who chooses to steal raid gear from a clan with the clan property rule from progressing until they return their gear.

people of taranis have no say whatsoever on how the server runs and which rules should be allowed and which rules should be discarded

The "people of Taranis" are exactly who decides the server rules. The endgame clans have an equal vote on rules, and all participate in deciding how to run the server. Whether an endgame clan decides to cast their vote based on polling their clannies or by the generals deciding is entirely up to the clan. If you want to make an endgame clan with full democracy, go for it! The generals all work in the best interest of the clannies.. I know that sounds overly-altruistic, but it is true, perhaps because around 70% of the endgame clan gens are female! Many are fine with having the gens oversee the clan. Most of our clannies are able to log in, kill bosses, lock snorri, camp DL/EDL, all without worrying about the politics that allow them to do all that without the drama of ffa and ksings.

people pretend to like Aeons or Pride because they are scared of being blacklisted

I wouldn't say that.. I have been in Aeon (theIlluminati and ThePillars merged to become Aeon, I was in theIlluminati beforehand) for almost four years now, and plenty of people have come and gone without any incident of blacklisting. As I have said before, you have very little experience with Taranis (not to mention the endgame as a whole), and should not be making hasty generalizations regarding endgame clans on a foreign server.



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yawn... same old people defending the same old rules. How can one have fun in a simple game when they have to play under so many rules, it takes away freedom. You guys have formed an ingame government which is total bs. Since Aeons and Pride decided to form an ingame government, why don't you guys have the players of taranis vote on which rules they want to keep and which rules they want gone. That way everyone is happy Also the only people you need on the "blacklist" are scammers. I don't see why you guys need to ruin someone's gameplay just because they ran anyway with some gear that drops an unlimited amount of times or at least until OTM removes it from the game. Remember it's not "clan" property, it's OTMs property, they can take away anything with a click of a button.

I may be a lvl 159 with only dl gloves but I can tell the difference between whats right and whats wrong. A good dom clan always makes sure that every player is experiencing a fun time in celtic heroes. Having multiple players outside of Aeons and Pride that are upset with the way things are running should be an indicator that a change needs to be made. Things will only get worse if you decide to ignore those indicators.

I find out so funny that people always attack these clans...and now the whole point system...next part is the whole game haha?

Remember it's not "clan" property, it's OTMs property, they can take away anything with a click of a button.

this one need to stop lol, I see it too often. Ofc its OTM propriety, your whole character even is! If you work like this we can do it this way :
OTM own the game, they own the world. But like your country can requisition your house, it doesn't mean it cant be yours either. When a clan work for some item or gear its legitimate that they call it "theirs"
With your point of view I dont even see the point of playing the game, I mean its OTM propriety, they can erase all, so why playing??

yawn... same old people defending the same old rules. How can one have fun in a simple game when they have to play under so many rules, it takes away freedom. You guys have formed an ingame government which is total bs

That's your opinion, I find, and always finded that fun and an amazing achievement!! and you can't deny it! Ruling a server this way isn't something easy!!

Benevolence is not the first clan to try and take down one or more of the endgame clans on Taranis.. Let's see:

1. KingdomOfAlba (Directed at Versus - dominant clan alongside TheILLUMINATI)
2. vvvvVvvvv
3. Synergy
4. Prototypes (for a little bit - directed at Pride)
5. Nexus (for a little bit - directed at Pride)
5. Equilibrium (who actually has the same gens as Benevolence.. They returned from their year-long break)
6. Benevolence

What usually happens is a few underleveled hotheads (some are actually passionate for their cause, but most are not) decide to wreck some havoc, they condemn the endgame clans and ks mobs and for a while think the endgame clans fear them and can't sleep due to nightmares caused by these rebels, but after a while they see that their efforts don't change a thing - their raid boss ks attempts fail, the endgame clans are only getting stronger, and eventually the little band of rebels realize the injustice that despite how easy it looks on paper, it is just as difficult to send a peaceful server into ffa as changing an ffa server into peace. At this point we usually see the leaders of the rebel clan suddenly go inactive or transferring to another server, and a few months after this all began Taranis breathes a sigh of relief. Peace again at last.

KingdomOfAlb...was Versus, the orignal one!!!aimed against illum and pride!!!
We did it for our previous clan leader aka tony, and I even forgot it but its a good exemple ya.
I mean, I have been in Pride for quite long, and versus before ( illum, pillars etc etc never accepted me, but whatever)

So yeah, to the OP we worked out to kill Pride..my own clan and the one I defended ha! TBH we did that for fun, and failed as hell. We did that caus we were bored of the same rules, making the server rolling over a routine...boring.
So we worked hard on this clan, recruited many engames etc etc for an epic fail haha
But at some point, we tried. so Please try.

Well dont sell us as tyrants regen, it was mainly a good experience and people would have forgotten those names if it was that much useless. At some point I believe those clans ( ok KoA was fast ended, and didn't do much) are the one also making this game alive, and tbh I even joined back pride then.
Somehow its a thing we can like on both side of the war ;D

Hello, Eldorado here. Just want to tell all, that FFA SERVERS ARE NOT BAD. Ever since my switch to a ffa server, I've already obtained full edl and have supporting clan members who go out of there way to help. Clans do have to fight for locks but that's what makes the game fun. If you just get things handed to you in life on a silver platter, fed to you with a silver spoon. Life would be dull and boring. I noticed many members from Taranis just sit around in castle, or they don't even log as much anymore. It gets boring when you repeat the same routine over and over again. Like yea WOOO more drops, and you get strong. But after that its just the same routine, rotating and rotating. To the point where you are asking yourself is this whole rule system worth it?
In my opinion those saying FFA servers suck. You can bet that from my experience being here in this server Taranis, and then switching to a FFA server that I've had Way way way more fun on the FFA server then here in Taranis. Yes I've locked battle, yes it was fun. Yea we win some we lose some. But it's always the thrill to run in there and fight. And come out with something. Sometimes you come out with nothing but the whole clan just pats eachother on the back and says good try guys. Yea some people get butt hurt but things happen and it's only just a game. Other systems are much easier, For Example, DL and Edl is voted on, rather then working for so many points just to get one piece of armour, if you lvl and you work hard and help clan. Then you will be awarded. Simple as that. The whole clan prop thing aswell, does not happen on a few other servers. Players are able to have freedom on trading and selling items, and things are very straightforward. You work for it then it's yours.--- I watch taranis and I see all my friends people that I love, slowly quitting. Or getting angry with the server rules. Its time to rethink the way the server is being run. I do not by any means want to bash. Just putting it out there. That maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea for a change. Since well, Taranis is losing many players. And becoming less active. I've read all your points and views on the server rules and system. Just putting my opinion out there. -Yawn- goodluck guys.

Noone said FFA isn't good most of taraniens including me made alts on FFA server, enjoyed it, hated it or whatever they felt. But the point we make is that its two different way of playing mmos. Those are the two extreme, and like some people prefer vanilla over chocolate...others prefer FFA over build and rules.
Taranis is a ruled server, deal with it, change to an ffa server, or create a clan and fight them back, but words here wont change, and the aim of an mmo is either to fight!


and abt losing players...well they lose and gain some, but I never heard taranis saying that they wanted to be overpopulated, the way it is now seems perfect and fine. It's a calm server

Our generals are very organized and devote huge amounts of time to clan bookkeeping.

and that's something really true. Those guys are scary, like mad and organized people , but as u see here , its one of the first debate going that much well on the forum!!! and that's funny and cool!!


Last but not least...WHY?? what is trying to be achieved there? who in hell in both endgame clan will say: " oh well, this guy deserved it, ill disband pride or aeon for him"
I mean its like irl, the powerful win, if u want to impose these rules please try, itll be hard, you probably will fail as we did, but at least itll be more than a good experience afterall, and most of the taranian people are really grown up.

lol taranis has gotten so bad that people from different servers are coming in to support the fact that Aeons and Pride have ruined taranis. Aeons and Pride will eventually get over thrown by another clan that's had enough of the bs rules... It has happened on Lugh with Alliance having enough of the rolling system, they decided to part ways with all of Lugh and became the dom clan. Better watch out Aeons and Pride. Once people come to their senses... Your fked

wrong! aeon and pride are Taranis!! and all theirs haters are the one that make them living either lol;D
if you read history, it has happen many many times. Like way too many to rememeber. But the head of the snakes is hard and heavy, and aeon and pride, even if name change caus alliance, have always been the two sides of taranis, and it will remain this way. This server has taken this path, and more than half of the active players are happy, so be it.
Taranis has always been ruled betwenn two clan ( starting with versus) caus this is the best way to please max of people, two sides...
the leftovers ca do the third party, this is , according to me, what do a great server as taranis!!

Are Aeon and Pride still trying to defend themselves?

Shocking.

@regen, if a group of players were camping and killed hrung but it was your clans kill in the rotation, will your clan throw a hissy fit? Your clan has no right to claim an open world boss.

You roll for raid drops yet the drops are still clan peoperty? Lmao thats even worse..

Your analogy of renting a property is ludicrous and makes no sense. An actual applicable analogy would be working a job, and for your services (turning up and helping on bosses) you get rewarded with pay (gear). If you decide to leave/get fired from your job, your boss does not ask for your salary back. There is no land in the equation, you're grasping at straws.

No one needs another clans permission to kill a boss, if you cant see how ridiculous that sounds all hope is lost.

Exactly.

How pathetic and arrogant for anyone to impose rules upon an entire server. If i payed to play Celtic Heroes i would be very upset that unimportant and selfish players can make up rules on a whim. The rules are made by OTM not you.

The sad reality is that these idiots have gone virtually uncontested for so long, whilst other servers have been able to flourish. It is very clear that these two clans are made up of Veteran/Wealthy players who beleive that together their word is law...disgusting, CH is a game..I feel very sorry for you guys if you have to rule and hold hostage a game server just to feel good.

Plenty of people coming to castle telling me they came from Taranis and left because of these closed minded fools and their Laws. As i said i will be transferring soon, as well as encouraging others come to Taranis, it is very clear this world needs help from Normal players.




I also love how Regen says that Pride and Aeon make Taranis peaceful...then lists every clan that has tried to stop their regime.