Celtic Heroes

Since it's clear that rogues and rangers are equal in dps, what's the problem?

Giving out most damage and overall damage(total damage in given time) is different if i am right

I think folks dwell too much on ranger/rogue disparity.

OTM is trying to make it so that every class adds value on many raids. 3+ years ago, all you need is a ranger and 5 rogues to kill a boss.

Rangers are valuable for Necro, Proteus. Mages are needed for many event bosses, and required for Proteus & Gelebron, and of course Tank/Healers a must for many encounters.
Rogues are still primary DPS, but they're not the sole source of damage anymore, it can come from other classes depending on the boss/encounter, and that's just right.
Every class has a role to play, just like a sports team has role players. Not everyone in it is a superstar and a team that relies on its superstar player alone isn't very successful either. You need the support guys too.

Because resists and defense play a role in who will be more effective lol. On a boss with 10k def, 10k attack lets you hit 50% and 2k attack lets you hit 16.7%. Clearly there's a massive difference between those two values. But if swamplord only has 1k def, the 10k attack toon hits 90.9% and the 2k attack hits 66.7%. Definitely closes the gap a ton. Same type of logic holds true for dmg types (elemental, physical, divine) and skill dmg

this is a test on who dishes out the most damage, not per each boss as everyone varies, for the most accurate test you would want 0 of all resists

Thank you. That was my point on using the OW bosses. You could even use rockbelly but I don't think he has enough health to run a dps test.

Because resists and defense play a role in who will be more effective lol. On a boss with 10k def, 10k attack lets you hit 50% and 2k attack lets you hit 16.7%. Clearly there's a massive difference between those two values. But if swamplord only has 1k def, the 10k attack toon hits 90.9% and the 2k attack hits 66.7%. Definitely closes the gap a ton. Same type of logic holds true for dmg types (elemental, physical, divine) and skill dmg

I'm not sure why an edl or dl aura toon with dl or edl weapons would have 2k attack. We're not talking extreme opposites of each other.

Please do not compare ios rangers and android rangers.

This is such a moronic statement. Android is behind iOS, but they'll experience the same things in the long run.

Since it's clear that rogues and rangers are equal in dps, what's the problem?

That's not true at all.

Ranger > rogue, only on proteus, necro

Rogue > ranger, everything else

Since it's clear that rogues and rangers are equal in dps, what's the problem?

That's not true at all.

Ranger > rogue, only on proteus, necro

Rogue > ranger, everything else

Thats a statement that lacks any basis whatsoever.

Please do not compare ios rangers and android rangers.

This is such a moronic statement. Android is behind iOS, but they'll experience the same things in the long run.

What makes it a moronic statement and why the need to make a disrespectful comment?

Since it's clear that rogues and rangers are equal in dps, what's the problem?

That's not true at all.

Ranger > rogue, only on proteus, necro

Rogue > ranger, everything else

Thats a statement that lacks any basis whatsoever.

It's proven time and time again on my server.

All these people claiming that rangers can outdps any equally geared rogue just have a plethora of mediocre rogues in their servers who probably refuse to spam their best dps skills.

I just find it ludicrous that people can just say that outright that rangers are better dps than rogues on the basis of proteus and Necro, those are only two bosses.

On Mord:

I've spammed double shot, used my two buffs right after they expired, used heroic hastes and attack elixirs, spammed pot to stay alive, using full EDL everything, shadow moon helm, skain blood set, reaper ring, mighty oblivion ring, 70 divine damage ring, 2 Royal hrung damage/attack.

vs

A rogue who spammed shadowstrike, sneaky attack, double attack, rend, assassinate, fully lixed, using full EDL everything, shadow secrets helm, Garanak blood set, reaper ring, an imperial emberdrake ring, 70 divine damage ring, imperial and Royal Hrung damage/attack.

And could never beat this equally geared rogue and some might say that I even had better gear than this rogue.

Now, think about the lower to midlevel rangers who have to use clairvoyant skills, rangers are the worst class to play until full DL.

Rangers and rogues are nowhere equal.