Celtic Heroes

We take into consideration overall contribution at bosses, time in length of game, activity level, how many drops they already have vs the other players requesting the same drop.

But how you do this without being subjective? Surely you cant be on 24/7 and cannot measure this unless you track attendance and loot religiously per player. Sometimes I would feel someone else deserves loot then i look at our dkp system and realize that another has attended more raids than the one I was considering. And we are a small clan of 30, cant imagine doing it for hundreds of players.

We take into consideration overall contribution at bosses, time in length of game, activity level, how many drops they already have vs the other players requesting the same drop.

But how you do this without being subjective? Surely you cant be on 24/7 and cannot measure this unless you track attendance and loot religiously per player. Sometimes I would feel someone else deserves loot then i look at our dkp system and realize that another has attended more raids than the one I was considering. And we are a small clan of 30, cant imagine doing it for hundreds of players.

There's about 25 of us that do edl and raid bosses. We do have a few more that have joined the mord and necro raids as they're finally hitting the 190+ levels. I'm at just about every mord and have only missed one necro and one proteus. So it's not too large of a group.

It's rare that more than 2 players want the same item so this makes it a lot easier.

You've attended every single EDL boss as well? To commit months/years of raid activity of 25 people into memory and know who has been active and less active and who took breaks in between as well as knowing every single loot everyone has gotten is an amazing feat.

on gwydion the DKP system for raids is pretty fair although hard for actives to get more than 1 epic drop as all dkp gets spent on 1.

The EDL system is pretty unfair considering its on votes and in one case allowed a completely inactive warrior to get EDL shield over actives(just one example).

Also for doch gul is a votes system which allows for some pretty unfair choices but on the whole its not too bad, with a good leader who would be willing to put time and effort into a effective doch gul and EDL point system those problems could be fixed.

on gwydion the DKP system for raids is pretty fair although hard for actives to get more than 1 epic drop as all dkp gets spent on 1.

That's the primary flaw of a bidding system, that's why I wasn't too keen on doing something like that for Ava.

on gwydion the DKP system for raids is pretty fair although hard for actives to get more than 1 epic drop as all dkp gets spent on 1.

That's the primary flaw of a bidding system, that's why I wasn't too keen on doing something like that for Ava.

In resurgence it also depends on who is on at the raid. The girl who got our first dark gele axe paid 5xs more dkp for it than another person did a week later for the same axe. And then level as well makes a difference as nish got that void gele bow cheap as he was really the only ranger over 220 on when it dropped. Also we have some clannies who don't bid often so most won't bid against them.

I was in a 'fisher' clan on Rosmerta before where you could roll for the drop and it definitely seemed harder to get gear especially when that was for frozen drops at the time.

We take into consideration overall contribution at bosses, time in length of game, activity level, how many drops they already have vs the other players requesting the same drop.

But how you do this without being subjective? Surely you cant be on 24/7 and cannot measure this unless you track attendance and loot religiously per player. Sometimes I would feel someone else deserves loot then i look at our dkp system and realize that another has attended more raids than the one I was considering. And we are a small clan of 30, cant imagine doing it for hundreds of players.

We track raid bosses (hrung, mordy, necro, prot, for now we didnt take gele but getting there) and we somewhat track edls (205-215) and someone collects and writes it down, as well as everyone has a post with his gear in it and level (gear given from clan), and we still do voting.

You've attended every single EDL boss as well? To commit months/years of raid activity of 25 people into memory and know who has been active and less active and who took breaks in between as well as knowing every single loot everyone has gotten is an amazing feat.

We have an order of gearing for edl. And as active as our group line chat is it's very easy to know who is and who isn't active.

As far as knowing who has what, that's easy since I'm the one that typically trades over the items and can keep a list of who has what.

on gwydion the DKP system for raids is pretty fair although hard for actives to get more than 1 epic drop as all dkp gets spent on 1.

That's the primary flaw of a bidding system, that's why I wasn't too keen on doing something like that for Ava.

yes it can be flawed but I believe the system is superior in some respects to the loot council method purely because DKP system is an indifferent entity without feelings towards a specific player, for example if you dislike someone subconsciously you may be less inclined to vote them.

on gwydion the DKP system for raids is pretty fair although hard for actives to get more than 1 epic drop as all dkp gets spent on 1.

That's the primary flaw of a bidding system, that's why I wasn't too keen on doing something like that for Ava.

yes it can be flawed but I believe the system is superior in some respects to the loot council method purely because DKP system is an indifferent entity without feelings towards a specific player, for example if you dislike someone subconsciously you may be less inclined to vote them.