Celtic Heroes

I get bored and occasionally read through what's going on on other servers. On Fingal we've started looking at 'awarding' players drops and not necessarily toons/classes drops. For example, we have a player that will tri-log his warrior, mage, and ranger. He'll tank on necro and often be the only mage so without his mage we wouldn't have certain lures (pierce), and his ranger brings nice dps with dl weapons and aura. There's been a few times without him at least bringing his warrior to tank and mage to lure we wouldn't have killed a proteus or 3. So do we tell this person, "sorry, your warrior is your main and you cannot have gear for your mage even though your logging multiple toons and spending your plat items on more than one toon." Or do we say that this person is allowed to eligible for a drop for which class he chooses? We're not talking about a player that has one well developed toon and a few 'fun' toons. We're talking about 3 over lvl 220 toons that contribute equally to boss raids.

At what point does a player have more than one main?

Thank you Zyz for your thoughts...we are looking at other options to best fit our server and our growing alt population.

I get bored and occasionally read through what's going on on other servers. On Fingal we've started looking at 'awarding' players drops and not necessarily toons/classes drops. For example, we have a player that will tri-log his warrior, mage, and ranger. He'll tank on necro and often be the only mage so without his mage we wouldn't have certain lures (pierce), and his ranger brings nice dps with dl weapons and aura. There's been a few times without him at least bringing his warrior to tank and mage to lure we wouldn't have killed a proteus or 3. So do we tell this person, "sorry, your warrior is your main and you cannot have gear for your mage even though your logging multiple toons and spending your plat items on more than one toon." Or do we say that this person is allowed to eligible for a drop for which class he chooses? We're not talking about a player that has one well developed toon and a few 'fun' toons. We're talking about 3 over lvl 220 toons that contribute equally to boss raids.

At what point does a player have more than one main?

In my opinion, in a cooperative server like Epona, every necessary toon to kill a boss should be treated equally and given a roll each. It's tough to do so however since every boss is different. Maybe on Hrungnir you can only roll for one toon as you really only 5-8 people to kill it under rage these days, or even Mordris as we have now seen servers who kill it with one group. But Necro (even in Avalon we'd like as many as available just so we can save on lixes), Proteus and Gelebron, you need all hands on deck and someone bringing multiple toons and using lixes on each deserves equal chances.

That said however, in my clan we still give preference on mains over alts. It works for us because we are a small clan and I try to keep the demographic somewhat balanced. We don't have 15 rogues compared to 4 druids, for example. So our alts have plenty of chances to get loot after the mains do, and our active alts have often better gear than less active mains because of our dkp system, so that's another factor where we satisfy our multi-loggers and distribute items in a fair manner.

The issue with giving alts a roll along with a person's mains is that this leads to one clan killing raid bosses without any of the others just because a few people can log 3-4 toons.
We have had this before and everyone else was outraged. Is the solution now to sink to that level.
Many alts does, has before and will again remove the largest clans need to cooperate and will leave all others excluded.
Just like on most other servers...you know the ones you all left because you didn't like but now want to change Epona to be more like them.

The issue with giving alts a roll along with a person's mains is that this leads to one clan killing raid bosses without any of the others just because a few people can log 3-4 toons.
We have had this before and everyone else was outraged. Is the solution now to sink to that level.
Many alts does, has before and will again remove the largest clans need to cooperate and will leave all others excluded.
Just like on most other servers...you know the ones you all left because you didn't like but now want to change Epona to be more like them.

I don't see your point. If one clan could clan kill a boss, they could do that right now as well, regardless if they can roll on their alts or not. Then redistribute or trade the drops with other people.

My point is that if alts get rolls several people, myself included, would start bringing 5 characters to every boss so that they had 5 rolls.

Now the clans these people are in are suddenly getting much stronger and no longer need anyone from outside of the clan to take down bosses which leads to people being excluded and totally against the basic principle of Epona as a free server.

My point is that if alts get rolls several people, myself included, would start bringing 5 characters to every boss so that they had 5 rolls.

Now the clans these people are in are suddenly getting much stronger and no longer need anyone from outside of the clan to take down bosses which leads to people being excluded and totally against the basic principle of Epona as a free server.

Hell if our members can bring 5 toons each on gelebron and we roll on loot, ill be fine with it as long as those 5 toons actually help rather than 4 of them being afk. I think youre scenarios are exagerrated. as ive said you can institue a different rule for hrung - 1 roll each no matter what and multiple rolls on tougher bosses where you need everyone you can get.

Yeah on a competitive server where one clan raids alone and does not like others to enjoy half the content of the game one person bringing multiple toons is an ideal situation.
However, this being the Epona forum, we are talking about our free open server where all clans attend raids it certainly is not ideal as it leads to one clan becoming dominant.
I also fail to see the exaggeration in relating to actual situations that happened only a few months ago.
I feel your belief that your input is required on almost every topic to be far more exaggerated.

The constant rule changes for rolls is why I cant get bothered to attend at bosses on Epona any more. I'm quite sure more feel the same way.

Yeah on a competitive server where one clan raids alone and does not like others to enjoy half the content of the game one person bringing multiple toons is an ideal situation.
However, this being the Epona forum, we are talking about our free open server where all clans attend raids it certainly is not ideal as it leads to one clan becoming dominant.
I also fail to see the exaggeration in relating to actual situations that happened only a few months ago.
I feel your belief that your input is required on almost every topic to be far more exaggerated.

lol don't be hostile. I'm merely saying it's an exaggeration that "everyone will bring 5 characters to every boss". By the time you can bring 5 characters to Hrungnir, it's dead.