Celtic Heroes

Talking with your clan is hard when you don't bat an eye when ruining the experience of other players just because they play in a different clan. Where one general blatantly refuses to cooperate and "encourages aggression."

Do you mean like the message you sent to your clan that Seph sent showing that you are exploiting the bash bug.

Also taking words out of context, and again make an effort as you clearly haven't made one even though we did but who is the hard one to cooperate the ones who reached out and proposed the peace plan. I mean listen to yourself a little. Secondly please explain a few players going out of there way to ruin an agreement they are fully aware of is a miscommunication. Also OTM has said locks are FFA and the clan has the right to go for it even with numbers around 25 which can be possible. But in the agreement we were willing to give up that right so we wouldn't be full out griefed. But maybe before talking for your clan who clearly doesn't want this peace since they destroyed it the first time.

I never exploited the bash bug, that was said in anger after our attempt was thwarted, and it never materialized.

Holding gele for an hour while DPS stand around doing nothing? Using "FFA lock battle" as a justification for griefing is still griefing. That's like saying you're allowed to commit a crime just because you find a loophole.

If it's not clan bias then it surely must be ignorance right? Or delusion?

Its a game man two wrongs don't make a right so out of anger you propose doing the very thing ur upset about? And why on earth are you this angry over a game?

No it's called escalating when you decide to take it one step further & are the first clan to employ solid interference tactics messing with the raid while Clan B has it in progress.

I don't really know what your trying to prove here to be honest, I mean it would be nice if OTM can fix what is clearly a bug & I hope that they do would be even better if they make him instance based because in any server with more than one clan there is always going to be a one clan that's missing out on the content.

Would also be nice if you stop these kind of threads which are clearly intended to slander clan B, it's getting old now.
Your no saints and your absolutely not faultless at least clan B can hold their hands up and admit their faults.
We all make mistakes it's owning them & learning from them that defines us as people.

It's basically just tit for tat at this stage it's really now irrelevant who started what because both sides seem to want to keep fuelling the feud which makes them both as bad as the other.

Funny you should say that you "hold your hands up" even though you still do not admit to starting this fiasco. Your clan once gathered 8 to try outlock us on gele. This was the first time you interfered with our attempt but not the last.
Actually hold your head up and take responsibility. We might actually be able to come to an agreement if you recognise your wrongdoings instead of insisting that we stand alone.

This poll wasn't made to argue about the things none of us are going to take responsibility for. This poll is to patch a bug. If you have a different issue make another poll.
Also I would like to say Legendzz still has not griefed a single attempt, and in future please show us the rest of the screenshot instead of manipulating the situation.

How haven't we admitted it? We freely admitted we held Gelebron which is what you used to justify your escalation we tried to reach an agreement despite the escalation by clan A & as Legends stated due to "miscommunication" as he calls it that broke down.

If that's all the poll was intended to do "fix a bug" shouldn't it have been posted in bug section and what on earth was the purpose to provide a detailed back story a bias accounting of two clans feud if that's all he intended.

Well from what legends said to begin with he made it sound like only our clan was using the bug exploit I wasn't manipulating anything only making him see that we're not the only ones using this you should be more than aware one of your members did it to us, before he did we where just messing with Sents & not even trying to time early bashing today was the first time we attempted it properly.

If it didn't involve our clan and only asked for a bug fix I wouldn't have bothered replying at all it's only because it did that I felt the need too it's clearly slander.

+1 to fixing the bug though any game developer should rectify bugs as their found.

Well from what legends said to begin with he made it sound like only our clan was using the bug exploit I wasn't manipulating anything only making him see that we're not the only ones using this you should be more than aware one of your members did it to us, before he did we where just messing with Sents & not even trying to time early bashing today was the first time we attempted it properly.

You know better than I, Legendzz hasn't done anything negative to your attempts. He tried to help fix it. You took a screenshot and manuipulated it to make it appear like Legendzz has been griefing. If that's really how low you're going to stoop then take it somewhere else.

We posted it here to get more feedback, not about our clans but about the bug. We thought the more feedback we got, the more likely it would be for otm to deal with it and it not take too long.

I don't know anything of a sort I see his toons participating along with others, I did not take a screenshot it's your clans private line room one was sent to me & I only sent it here because he was acting completely innocent.

Makes no sense still how does providing a back story help speed up a bug fix? You've established their is a bug others have supported that it needs fixed there really was no real reason to doing that.

I already agreed that the bug should be fixed & it's clear neither clan will ever see eye to eye so if you'll leave ours out of your posts and what not you'll hear nothing from me.

Topic will probably get locked for naming & shaming or something anyways.

I can confirm he said that but nobody took place to set this practice up nor did we get as organized as the other clans griefs where they have 10+ just to mess with attempts, compared to the 8 max we had once.
In fact if he was the one who had us stop our grief attempts since he knew Gele is able to be killed with interference.
Your clan is far from innocent as much as ours. I've talked to many people from your clan formerly and currently who don't partake in these griefs. In fact I was warned by a current clanny of yours of some things you guys do and setup but this is not the time nor the place to get into that.
This bug needs to be fixed it can be put anywhere and the backstory was necessary halfway in order for otm to know how it is done and they themselves can recreate it and fix it.

If you say so hard to believe anything any of you say these days.

No it was necessary to explain the problem so the bug & ask for it to be fixed not necessary to slander clan B in the process and act like clan A is the only afflicted party in this situation.

I just find it humorous that none of you bat an eye lid when your member did it & boasted about ruining our runs to you all after, then when it's done back you & you feel the effect yourself you run to forums and complain kind of hypocritical don't you think?

If you say so hard to believe anything any of you say these days.

No it was necessary to explain the problem so the bug & ask for it to be fixed not necessary to slander clan B in the process and act like clan A is the only afflicted party in this situation.

I just find it humorous that none of you bat an eye lid when your member did it & boasted about ruining our runs to you all after, then when it's done back you & you feel the effect yourself you run to forums and complain kind of hypocritical don't you think?

As I said half of the story was unnecessary.

However after having people come to me about your clan, I can hardly believe what is said aswell.
I find it funny how your the only one still going on about this, yet you are still acting like you are not a factor in these arguments.

All anyone had to do was pm each other about what the story was in social apps both clans use, instead your threw a tomato at op because it didn't favor your clan, if I do recall one of your clannies tried to get mad at otm for being at a mord hitting it with his fist and joining the banner we invited him too. You and your clan will always find some way to point a finger and call injustice.

Hey all,

First of all grief ruins servers. I wont participate in it. And i will defend my Chief that he was not for grief! He said that but he also decided would be not in the best interest for everyone - that means clan B also. He honeslty has the server interest at heart - and again, he does not in anyway condone that we grief clan B. The majority of us in clan A are not spiteful and have wondeful friends in clan B. No, we don't want grief and when some other clanies do try out of frustration we have told them to stop!

Now, the grief needs to stop period, why? Not for clan A (and we have proven to kill it through grief) but for the server as a whole. This could be very detrimental to both clans and every one in Gwydion. People lose interest and can quit. I have seen it happen on other servers and we have all had that feeling of (this is more a job not fun anymore) -we can not let that happen here. That effects everyone in gwydion even lower clans when you look at the bigger picture- and even OTM is affected!

Lastly, stop pointing the blame at eachother. You both just needed to review the conditions of the lock battle as there was possibly a misunderstanding the time when clan B attempt to take from what seemed with not enough people. Both of you are leaders and need to come up with very clear conditions that cover all terms to a lock again. Don't say it wont happen. You both need to take charge and have not only your clan in mind but everyone outside it. That is a good leader!

Thanks and lovely to be back x

Aeternum started it, yes.

Relent (myself included) escalated it.

There was an agreement, badly written up that didn't take into account many possibilities which should've been addressed.

No point continuing to point fingers, either work through it, with another deal/agreement or wait for OTM to fix the griefing issue 'soon' (never).