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At 150 it's all about rupture and it's quite clear that the axe will be more beneficial (you rely on rupture a lot at that level, or atleast I did)

At 150 it's all about rupture and it's quite clear that the axe will be more beneficial (you rely on rupture a lot at that level, or atleast I did)

Did you test your dmg with rupture with both the axe and dagger? Or are you assuming the small amount of str from the axe was going to make rupture do significant more damage?

Honestly unless the mob is a 4*, between a couple autos, shatter, pummel, and double attack the mob is almost dead without even using rupture.

At 150 it's all about rupture and it's quite clear that the axe will be more beneficial (you rely on rupture a lot at that level, or atleast I did)

Did you test your dmg with rupture with both the axe and dagger? Or are you assuming the small amount of str from the axe was going to make rupture do significant more damage?

Honestly unless the mob is a 4*, between a couple autos, shatter, pummel, and double attack the mob is almost dead without even using rupture.

The 150 daggers are clearly made for rogues because of the attack speed of daggers. When people use axes, they use it for rupture and autos honestly don't play that big of a role at that level .

No I haven't tested because it's a waste of time and gold and I am not level 150

At 150 it's all about rupture and it's quite clear that the axe will be more beneficial (you rely on rupture a lot at that level, or atleast I did)

Did you test your dmg with rupture with both the axe and dagger? Or are you assuming the small amount of str from the axe was going to make rupture do significant more damage?

Honestly unless the mob is a 4*, between a couple autos, shatter, pummel, and double attack the mob is almost dead without even using rupture.

The 150 daggers are clearly made for rogues because of the attack speed of daggers. When people use axes, they use it for rupture and autos honestly don't play that big of a role at that level .

No I haven't tested because it's a waste of time and gold and I am not level 150

We're talking about offhands. Offhands don't have a speed. Autos do have an impact at that level. I'll leave it at this - there are several people that have responded in this thread why the dagger is better and have tested both and found the dagger to be better over axe rather than blindly going off of an assumption

At 150 it's all about rupture and it's quite clear that the axe will be more beneficial (you rely on rupture a lot at that level, or atleast I did)

Did you test your dmg with rupture with both the axe and dagger? Or are you assuming the small amount of str from the axe was going to make rupture do significant more damage?

Honestly unless the mob is a 4*, between a couple autos, shatter, pummel, and double attack the mob is almost dead without even using rupture.

The 150 daggers are clearly made for rogues because of the attack speed of daggers. When people use axes, they use it for rupture and autos honestly don't play that big of a role at that level .

No I haven't tested because it's a waste of time and gold and I am not level 150

Nothing was clearly made for any class lol, I know druids who use dagger offhands.

And if you haven't tested it then stop assuming things and arguing when you know nothing.
Let those with more experience speak and you could read and experement it to get some better knowledge for the future.

I've been playing a warrior for over 5 years and I've played so many different builds at so many different levels so to say I have no knowledge over this sort of thing is quite ignorant. You can go try using a 150 dagger with an axe, I can't stop you but I can say you will be more satisfied with an offhand axe. I've played with both the 180 haste dagger and 180 offhand axe while using an axe and I can say that I was more satisfied with the offhand axe over the haste dagger

So I think it's safe to assume that the axe is better to use than the dagger at 150, also considering the fact the piercing/psn dmg dagger doesn't even give a haste boost.

I've been playing a warrior for over 5 years and I've played so many different builds at so many different levels so to say I have no knowledge over this sort of thing is quite ignorant. You can go try using a 150 dagger with an axe, I can't stop you but I can say you will be more satisfied with an offhand axe. I've played with both the 180 haste dagger and 180 offhand axe while using an axe and I can say that I was more satisfied with the offhand axe over the haste dagger

So I think it's safe to assume that the axe is better to use than the dagger at 150, also considering the fact the piercing/psn dmg dagger doesn't even give a haste boost.

Agent k used both and he much preferred the dagger as it gave more overall damage. At 180 spear and dagger beats anything hands down. I'm not sure why you say he'd be more satisfied when he already stated he tried both and prefers thr dagger over axe. Many of us have already stated why dagger is better but you keep falling back on just rupture. Anyway, the OP should see if he can borrow from someone an axe and the poison dagger and see which they prefer.

For some of us we have plenty of haste lix so haste isn't an issue anyway.

I've been playing a warrior for over 5 years and I've played so many different builds at so many different levels so to say I have no knowledge over this sort of thing is quite ignorant. You can go try using a 150 dagger with an axe, I can't stop you but I can say you will be more satisfied with an offhand axe. I've played with both the 180 haste dagger and 180 offhand axe while using an axe and I can say that I was more satisfied with the offhand axe over the haste dagger

So I think it's safe to assume that the axe is better to use than the dagger at 150, also considering the fact the piercing/psn dmg dagger doesn't even give a haste boost.

firstly the axe doesnt give a haste bonus either so im not too sure what your point is there...

If you really wanna get into this, i played a warrior from 2011-2015 before i xfered to arawn. I also have a warrior that i occasionally play now aswell. I know from experience that dagger adds more overall dps than the axe and i did not need to rely heavily on rupture for any of that time. Didnt even exist for a latge part of that time. Rupture helps with 4* a lot but isnt even needed on weaker mobs. You say we are ignorant but you are trying to give advice on something that you have never even experienced. Maybe you did like axe at that level but to say that axe better than dagger without ever using it...how would you actually know that it is so much better? You wouldnt. Also spite dagger beats elsrich axe at 180 and 200 also...

What made the 180/200 haste dagger so great is that it opened up a ring slot, but the 150 dagger doesn't give that option which is why people would rather just go with the axe, warriors and rogues alike.

Rupture is a very good skill no matter what mob you are going against...

Also I don't think anyone gave a clear explanation as to why the bounty dagger is so much better than the axe. Also doesn't make sense when I see 95% of warriors at that level using offhand axes and even a good amount of rogues using the axe over the dagger. I used an axe the entire time and not once was I disappointed about the amount of dmg I was dealing (was actually pretty op).

I know piercing damage is pretty popular at endgame because of lures and stuff but at the lower levels I don't think pierce damage really matters, even if there is a multiplier to it. People want that extra 150 str and that 300 heat dmg isn't all that bad aswell as the resist it gives

Now in theory, I believe the axe was made to be better than the dagger which is why daggers always have a special perk such as regens or a haste boost... just a theory so don't attack it with info I don't really care about

What made the 180/200 haste dagger so great is that it opened up a ring slot, but the 150 dagger doesn't give that option which is why people would rather just go with the axe, warriors and rogues alike.

Rupture is a very good skill no matter what mob you are going against...

Also I don't think anyone gave a clear explanation as to why the bounty dagger is so much better than the axe. Also doesn't make sense when I see 95% of warriors at that level using offhand axes and even a good amount of rogues using the axe over the dagger. I used an axe the entire time and not once was I disappointed about the amount of dmg I was dealing (was actually pretty op).

I know piercing damage is pretty popular at endgame because of lures and stuff but at the lower levels I don't think pierce damage really matters, even if there is a multiplier to it. People want that extra 150 str and that 300 heat dmg isn't all that bad aswell as the resist it gives

Now in theory, I believe the axe was made to be better than the dagger which is why daggers always have a special perk such as regens or a haste boost... just a theory so don't attack it with info I don't really care about

The ones that go with axe are the ones that look at the strength stat and elemental damage and don't understand how much damage is amplified with the dagger based on strength stat. Many players without understanding pierce/crush/slash with strength modifiers look at the axe and go "oh wow 150 strength and 300 damage is awesome. that dagger with 30 pierce (or whatever it is) is such low damage." It's the same with the quivers that have the elemental damage instead of the pierce which seems low but you equip both and compare and often the pierce dmg quiver gives a huge amount of damage over the elemental quiver.

Rupture is a good skill. But there are mobs where it takes me less time to kill them without casting rupture than with casting rupture. With many 2* and 3* mobs, if I hit shatter, pummel, double attack, and land another auto it's almost dead and it would take longer to cast rupture than to just whack it once or twice more and it's dead. Rupture is sweet when pulling multiple mobs and you can use rupture to accumulate damage on one while destroying 2 others.

Here's the thing - you don't think pierce damage matters. But it does. And this has been repeated by several players. If you'll read through the thread again, agent K and saladin gave good explanations on why the dagger is better. And I already explained why you see a large number of warriors running around with axes. Joe Bob sees Susie Smith and Bobby Allen running around with an axe and assume that's what they should get. They disregard the dagger because it appears to have low damage and go straight for the axe.

I think this thread has run it's course, and you're going to keep believing what you choose to believe regardless of how many other players that have leveled up warriors are telling you that have used both a dagger and a an axe at level 150/180/200. Again, I'd just tell the OP to see if he can borrow both weapons and make up his own mind which he prefers more.