Final scammed someone like 5 years ago, your simple mind may not have realised this by now but in our eyes he has made up for it and since then I haven't heard of a single incident of him scamming so at this point the title 'scammer' that you give him is merely a statement backed by outdated data.
As for the actual topic of this group, let's have an update...
Ronin - 190+ takes all dls, all edls, all raid bosses apart from gele. (Consistently)
Undivided - below 190 takes all dls all frozen, aggy.
Both - destroy elem at weekend events
Elementals - 190+ takes all dls, edls and raid bosses consistently but have been struggling and contested with prot and gele.
Sylph - below 190 and who really knows what they do... they've practically only got blood bath going for them as far as I'm aware...
Going back to how abba likes to play, he can say all he wants about ronin, half of elementals members were ronin who couldn't bear to work hard for anything. The truth is is that ronin is at the strongest point it's ever been at and is practically on par with elem; and if you want to know the true nature of the clans all you have to do is look at how they behave... When you back elem into a corner in terms of competition you'll begin to observe them making petty comments at bosses, griefing bosses, making rules about buying their gear off of the market that's only on there because of a certain flaw in their own clan... Hell you may even see their resident dog and unfathomable stirrer ballr/abba come onto the forums and publicly post some random *** about ronin or his personal favourite topic 'finalblow' aka the guys he stalks and tries to humiliate, all because he's realised that no matter how many times he says it in bele chats, (which is a hell of a lot) finalblow is a better player and person than he will ever be despite his past and any and every time it's said, someone from ronin is always and will always be there to back him...
Sidenote: Has it really reached the point that elem has to come onto the forums and promote their clan to every server now that they've lost members to ronin as well as the clan enigma who consist of ex-elem that have been screwed over by their own clan for no reason?
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