Celtic Heroes

^ Similarly to how you wouldn't want to be in a 'strict' clan, no end game clan would want you in either with that sort of mentality.

So a win/win for everyone I guess.

A clan that strict? Yeah, they wouldn't want me and I wouldn't want them. But on lugh I was offered positions in several clans, even a instant gen spot in one, but I turned them all down as I'm retired.

But what I'm really saying is that all of you people have more freedom then you are led to believe. Your "leaders" are people just like you, and they are only 1 person. With numbers or power you can change the world if there is an issue such as the one above.

I was known on lugh for uhh... challenging authority? I guess. But you know what? People liked me for it, and rightfully so. I called people out on the unethical things that were done(and hidden).

I can still sense the salt from all that Alliance drama I've read on the forums.

Of course everyone has freedom, it's an online game. But if your definition of freedom is being useless while your clan works hard, then you deserve having all the freedom in the world (being clanless). Especially if you're in a server with fierce competition, if you want to do what you want and not pay attention to your clan mates, you're worthless to me.

(Also I'm not sure why having an instant gen spot is that appealing, that clan must be desperate if they: A) offer gen spots to someone who is inactive, and B) offer it to a level 190.)

And there’s the drama that keeps people interested in the game.

^ Similarly to how you wouldn't want to be in a 'strict' clan, no end game clan would want you in either with that sort of mentality.

So a win/win for everyone I guess.

A clan that strict? Yeah, they wouldn't want me and I wouldn't want them. But on lugh I was offered positions in several clans, even a instant gen spot in one, but I turned them all down as I'm retired.

But what I'm really saying is that all of you people have more freedom then you are led to believe. Your "leaders" are people just like you, and they are only 1 person. With numbers or power you can change the world if there is an issue such as the one above.

I was known on lugh for uhh... challenging authority? I guess. But you know what? People liked me for it, and rightfully so. I called people out on the unethical things that were done(and hidden).

I can still sense the salt from all that Alliance drama I've read on the forums.

Of course everyone has freedom, it's an online game. But if your definition of freedom is being useless while your clan works hard, then you deserve having all the freedom in the world (being clanless). Especially if you're in a server with fierce competition, if you want to do what you want and not pay attention to your clan mates, you're worthless to me.

(Also I'm not sure why having an instant gen spot is that appealing, that clan must be desperate if they: A) offer gen spots to someone who is inactive, and B) offer it to a level 190.)

I retired BEFORE that all happened. I really don't care what happens at this point, I just don't understand why they take it.

Not useless, just not worked to death every waking moment. You should be entitled to some free time, I know people from my world who sat on alts or even quit due to this.

I was offered a spot in ALL of the major lugh clans at one point or another(including alliance), but again I turned em all down. One important thing to think about. Why are there generals and guardians? In an endgame clan everyone is a high lv. Gens and guards are the trusted people who keep charge and offer guidance. And since I've played since the beginning with a very good track record, and have knowledge on all 5 classes I feel they made the right choice. But... I hate endgame so I sadly told em no.

And there’s the drama that keeps people interested in the game.

I've never really thought about this before but that is so true.

Reform sounds like hell. Its like an actual job, in a game lol. Id make something up like my phone broke, and just not log at all to survive reform. I wouldnt want to be a part of a clan like that end game or not. It doesn't *have* to be that way to build up to endgame.

I know you guys are discussing about how strict OP rules are but Let me tell you why I am about to call it quits. Please OTM transfer me to a new server or release the update soon.

I started playing this game in early January, and I absolutely loved it. I enjoyed the graphics, the friendly-interface, the quest line, but mainly because the people are nice. This is my first mmo by the way and the reason I am about to write this is because I love this game. I reached lv 155 without being in any clan because I met great people along the way who helped me get the items by sometimes selling them to me (I think at a cheap price), giving them me for free or they helped me kill the bosses that I needed. If the boss dropped a mage item, I would ask them if I could have it, if I didn't need it I would tell them that they could keep it. I got my frozen armor set without being in any major clan or spending great amount of money. In fact, one player gave me most of crest for free. But after the bridge sentinel in other world, the quest line ended (this was before the auction house update). At this point there was nothing to do except for leveling and getting the dl armor. I realized that the only way to get the dl armor was joining one of the major clans.

In my server there were three major clans. The dominant clan, whose able to kill all the bosses, the second best clan was able to killed up to Proteus and the third best up to Hrung. I decided to join the third best clan because I wanted to join a clan that still hadn't killed most of the end games bosses because I thought it would be exciting if many of us would kill the bosses for the first time. So I joined them and with the new clan members ,I lixed up to 215, and camped bosses to get dl and edl. Once I reached 215, around mid June, the only thing left to do was try to kill the end game bosses and help the clan members get their dl and edl set. Its important to mention that at this point the second best clan became inactive. According to a friend many people quitted because the dominant clan was just too strong and they couldn't get enough people to log in to win the lock battles. My clan was growing at a slow rate but it was growing. So I stayed active camping dl and edl, and trying to kill the other end game bosses but we weren't able to get enough people before the dominant clan would lock the boss. After doing the same thing for four month, the game just became too repetitive. Too boring.

With the introduction of Nuada, many clan members moved there and the number of active members in our clan became low. Many of the remainder active players from the second best clan decided to join the dominant clan. At this point, in my opinion, there is not way we can challenge them in lock battles. To get as many players as they have, it probably can take a good amount of time and I don't have time for that. And what sucks its that many of the new players tend to go to the dominant clan, making it really hard for us too grow at any significant rate to challenge the dominant clan. Being in one dominant clan server its really boring. I log on the weekends and the server has become dead. I could try to join the dominant clan and experience how it feels to kill proteus, and Gelebron, but how long would I enjoy this before the game becomes repetitive again. And I really feel bad leaving my clan members because they are nice people who work hard to help the clan grow. If I leave the clan for the rival clan I feel like I am betraying them.

So I really wish there was a feature that allow players to transfer to another server. I really want to be in a server where there are at least two clans fighting for bosses. At the moment I am just waiting for the food of the god update to at least enjoy the game one more time, but I don't know what is happening with OTM. They don't want to tell us when they are releasing the new update. I am honestly about to quit. I hope they do release the new update before runescape mobile comes out. I remember I played runescape couple of times when I used to visit my cousin, so if they release it before CH, I might get addicted to that game.

I would rather quit this guild and do my castle-sitting lol. Who the hell is he to dictate my gaming style lol? Oh yes some 'prominent' figure on some server right. Listen here newbies on this server: you're supposed to gear up and follow the commands of some nerd fanboy.

Perhaps he's the real hidden reason all gamers quit, not just end-gamers lolol.

Clan gonna fail with those rules.

What a compete load of bs. This is the very reason I'm clanless. I really could not be dealing with a bunch of jumped up, know nothing, little kiddie Hitlers. Telling the world to do as I say or feel my wrath, that my way is the only way and must never be questioned. It's things like this that end up in leadership training manuals as examples of the perfect way not to be a leader.
And you wonder why your clan failed???

Lol.