Celtic Heroes

The drop rate isn't the complete problem. It's the fact that you need 6 at such an insane drop rate. If it was like a 100% mount or 1 tier pet, the drop rate would be 100% acceptable, its the fact you need to find 6 to have pet worth it.

It is completely irrelevant what you consider to be a jackpot or not, as I pointed out on a previous reply to you. OTM have designated the eggs to be jackpot prizes with drop rates set as such. OTM have called them jackpot prizes on this forum site. When Food of the Gods went live (not beta) people asked about the eggs and other players pointed out they are jackpot prizes and to expect drop rates to be set accordingly. So this isn't new knowledge just coming out now.
If players have been told they are jackpot prizes, then refuse to believe that they really are jackpot prizes, then it's nobodies fault but the players if they play and fail to win a jackpot prize.
If players want to plead ignorance, then more fool them for choosing to spend the amounts of money they have, without bothering to arm themselves with the facts first.
So just because a player believes the eggs shouldn't be a jackpot prize and should have lower drop rates doesn't give them a right to complain, when what they have been told turns out to be correct after all.

Your belief that the player base doesn't have a right to complain about a gameplay affecting 'jackpot' prize being introduced is quite irrelevant and disappointing.

Players are giving feedback based on an aspect of the game they are unhappy with. Quite relevant. If OTM says Agg rings are Bind On Equip, it doesn't mean players couldn't complain about it, we did and it was changed...after years of discussion. Just because something is the way it is, doesn't mean the player base should be quiet about it. Forums is a excellent tool for us to communicate our thoughts and feelings to the Devs. You demeaning our feedback is extremely frustrating, and quite frankly tiring to read.

Not strictly true. Players are complaining that they gambled a lot of money and didn't get either a jackpot prize or as many jackpot prizes as they hoped. This is what I say is an unjustified complaint. Before players paid the money and gambled it was known that the eggs are jackpot prizes and so would expect drop rates similar to the play and gold jackpots. It was also known that 6 eggs are required to get a max level dragon. If players weren't aware of either of these facts, then they should have found out before spending that amount of cash.

As far as complaining generally about the drop rates of the eggs and the amounts of cash required to get even a single egg, never mind six, then yes it's completely valid and I completely agree. I also agree that discussions should be had about the new direction of adding gameplay affecting 'paid for content', as this seems to go against the original ethos of the game and OTM. I also think discussions need to be had before Corrupted Gardens is released, because if it turns out that even a single boss requires a dragon pet to be present at the kill then it really could signify the end for a large number of long term player base.

But to reiterate, most complaints are that players gambled and didn't hit the jackpot enough times, leading to the players demanding they are given eggs in compensation and demanding the drop rates to be lowered. Looking at the small number who've posted figures for gold and plat jackpots also, it seems the drop rates of eggs are no higher and may even be less, so as it stands the complaints are unjustified.

This isn't a court of law. It's a video game forum. Who cares if I or you or Susie Smith thinks complaints are valid or justified. Players provide feedback to otm both positive and negative and otm determines if they want to make changes to something based on that feedback. If paying consumers want to complain they don't feel their purchase was worth it, that's ok. If people want to gamble on in app purchases or go to Vegas and feel the odds against them are too high, that's okay too.

Posting here as well:
Bad news first: No, we won't publicly give you the drop rate, but as someone has stated previously, it is and has always been advertised as a Jackpot Prize. The information passed to me is that the drop is similar to (actually you have a bit of better chance at an egg) than the other Jackpot Prizes.

Good news second: Now that being said, it is completely understandable that we are receiving complaints that it takes hitting Jackpot six times in order to have a maxed out prize. Keeping this in mind as players discuss, the team is closely monitoring this discussion and the information coming the game.

It's completely okay for you to complain about aspects or additions to the game that you don't enjoy. I can also follow the logic of Robbo's post and hope/believe their intent is not to anger, but to ask a different question. That is that of game direction for paid content and the amount it takes to max out the dragon pet VS specifically drop rate, as this is advertised as Jackpot Prizing. Seems like one of those situations where someone is asking if we're really asking the right questions. Just my take.

Please continue with your discussions from both points of view. We need the feedback and information for future decisions made for the game. We want it to be fun! We don't have a game without a community.

Just me sipping my tea:
Additionally, I have enjoyed reading through both the positive and negative feedback. The information posted and looking into on the servers... Some of you are very honest and lucky or very unlucky.... Others.... It's been a fun day of learning for me.

Posting here as well:
Bad news first: No, we won't publicly give you the drop rate, but as someone has stated previously, it is and has always been advertised as a Jackpot Prize. The information passed to me is that the drop is similar to (actually you have a bit of better chance at an egg) than the other Jackpot Prizes.

Good news second: Now that being said, it is completely understandable that we are receiving complaints that it takes hitting Jackpot six times in order to have a maxed out prize. Keeping this in mind as players discuss, the team is closely monitoring this discussion and the information coming the game.

It's completely okay for you to complain about aspects or additions to the game that you don't enjoy. I can also follow the logic of Robbo's post and hope/believe their intent is not to anger, but to ask a different question. That is that of game direction for paid content and the amount it takes to max out the dragon pet VS specifically drop rate, as this is advertised as Jackpot Prizing. Seems like one of those situations where someone is asking if we're really asking the right questions. Just my take.

Please continue with your discussions from both points of view. We need the feedback and information for future decisions made for the game. We want it to be fun! We don't have a game without a community.

Just me sipping my tea:
Additionally, I have enjoyed reading through both the positive and negative feedback. The information posted and looking into on the servers... Some of you are very honest and lucky or very unlucky.... Others.... It's been a fun day of learning for me.

I will admit that I may have come across as somewhat harsh in my comments, though I stand by my point that players cannot willingly gamble, then complain that they didn't win.
As part of my comments I have pointed out that you guys stated it is a jackpot prize. However what I will say in everyone's defense is that it has never been front and centre that it is a jackpot prize and it is by no means obvious unless you do a little digging. Yes players should have done that digging before taking the gamble, but in fairness I think OTM should and could do more to make it obvious. My first suggestion would be to update the chest description in the store to state that the egg is a jackpot prize.

Second thanks for at least confirming that the drop rates are slightly better than other jackpot prizes. Would you guys be able / willing to confirm that, for this new chest, the drop rate of the gold and plat jackpot prizes is the same is it always has been in past chests? Just to put players minds at rest that you haven't increased jackpot rates specifically for this chest.

Would you guys be able / willing to confirm that, for this new chest, the drop rate of the gold and plat jackpot prizes is the same is it always has been in past chests? Just to put players minds at rest that you haven't increased jackpot rates specifically for this chest.

I can with 100% certainty say, we have never negatively adjusted the drop rates of any items in the mystery chests.

In fact over the years we have actually boosted the drop rate chance of receiving these jackpot prizes.

If I recall correctly. I have discussed this in the past on a previous thread.

We can definitely look at ways to better display the Jackpot prizes! To reiterate, the feedback is great! We can't bring up your concerns whether positive or negative if yáll aren't posting.

I know a clannie who opened around 1000-1300 chests and got 2 eggs (BobtheMoose can probably correct me cause its his chests) but ik hes only gotten 2 eggs so hah!

And some braves clannie opened 5,500 and got 2 eggs, not sure about the 4k and 2mil.

Edit: Bob opened 1,600 chests

I will admit that I may have come across as somewhat harsh in my comments, though I stand by my point that players cannot willingly gamble, then complain that they didn't win.
As part of my comments I have pointed out that you guys stated it is a jackpot prize. However what I will say in everyone's defense is that it has never been front and centre that it is a jackpot prize and it is by no means obvious unless you do a little digging. Yes players should have done that digging before taking the gamble, but in fairness I think OTM should and could do more to make it obvious. My first suggestion would be to update the chest description in the store to state that the egg is a jackpot prize.

Second thanks for at least confirming that the drop rates are slightly better than other jackpot prizes. Would you guys be able / willing to confirm that, for this new chest, the drop rate of the gold and plat jackpot prizes is the same is it always has been in past chests? Just to put players minds at rest that you haven't increased jackpot rates specifically for this chest.

Does it matter if it's stated that it's a "jackpot" prize?

People go to Vegas and lose and complain all the time. So what. People like to express disappointment and frustration. It's okay.

1600 chests - 2 eggs

500chests
0eggs

glad i bought with ingame gold.
chicken ftw anyways