Celtic Heroes

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Yes, I know that. How much health does full dg rogues normally run at BT on over servers? I’m already at 500 vitality so I mean I’ve already rebirthed a good deal to get a decent amount of health...what VR really needs to do is add more armour and chaos resists to DG like we’ve begged Otm to do. A leaf blows on me and I fall over in full dg

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Probs cuz arawn players think Hp means more damage

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Yes, I know that. How much health does full dg rogues normally run at BT on over servers? I’m already at 500 vitality so I mean I’ve already rebirthed a good deal to get a decent amount of health...what VR really needs to do is add more armour and chaos resists to DG like we’ve begged Otm to do. A leaf blows on me and I fall over in full dg

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Yes, but where was his DPS on the ladder? Mages outdpsed him on unox half trying.
DG is great but it requires a ton of resources to sustain a DPS build in it. What I have seen work the best is for heavy chaos bosses or where armor is needed DG users keep EDL in their inventory and just swap over as needed. This gives you the temporary stat boost without needing to reb constantly and you can still keep your sick DPS builds.
The rogue mentioned is a full vit rogue and by an metric not a DPS toon.

Yes, I know that. How much health does full dg rogues normally run at BT on over servers? I’m already at 500 vitality so I mean I’ve already rebirthed a good deal to get a decent amount of health...what VR really needs to do is add more armour and chaos resists to DG like we’ve begged Otm to do. A leaf blows on me and I fall over in full dg

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Probs cuz arawn players think Hp means more damage

But na, that isn't it. Arawn has existed as a single clan server limited competition for a while now, since 2014 really. The only competition they had was on lower bosses (mordy was the highest) and at that point alt builds were all that mattered. Also the server has had a high population which enabled them to down anything without needing to maximize builds for bosses. This combined with extremely conservative players who don't like swapping build ideas when formulas change and new bosses have a different defensive stat set means that their players usually have meh builds compared to the rest of the game.
But it works for them, or it did up until BT. Arawn hasn't downed BT in a month now, only killing it 4 times.
Way I see it, everyone has the right to build their toon however they want it, so long as
1) they don't expect to be geared the same as those who build themselves for the clan
and
2) the clan is still able to kill things efficiently
After that each person really has the right to do what they want with their toon. If you want to fight for kills, do it. If you want to be able to solo kill banebrand helliants, do it. If you want a mixed hybrid build, why not?

Yes, I know that. How much health does full dg rogues normally run at BT on over servers? I’m already at 500 vitality so I mean I’ve already rebirthed a good deal to get a decent amount of health...what VR really needs to do is add more armour and chaos resists to DG like we’ve begged Otm to do. A leaf blows on me and I fall over in full dg

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Yes, but where was his DPS on the ladder? Mages outdpsed him on unox half trying.
DG is great but it requires a ton of resources to sustain a DPS build in it. What I have seen work the best is for heavy chaos bosses or where armor is needed DG users keep EDL in their inventory and just swap over as needed. This gives you the temporary stat boost without needing to reb constantly and you can still keep your sick DPS builds.
The rogue mentioned is a full vit rogue and by an metric not a DPS toon.

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Probs cuz arawn players think Hp means more damage

But na, that isn't it. Arawn has existed as a single clan server limited competition for a while now, since 2014 really. The only competition they had was on lower bosses (mordy was the highest) and at that point alt builds were all that mattered. Also the server has had a high population which enabled them to down anything without needing to maximize builds for bosses. This combined with extremely conservative players who don't like swapping build ideas when formulas change and new bosses have a different defensive stat set means that their players usually have meh builds compared to the rest of the game.
But it works for them, or it did up until BT. Arawn hasn't downed BT in a month now, only killing it 4 times.
Way I see it, everyone has the right to build their toon however they want it, so long as
1) they don't expect to be geared the same as those who build themselves for the clan
and
2) the clan is still able to kill things efficiently
After that each person really has the right to do what they want with their toon. If you want to fight for kills, do it. If you want to be able to solo kill banebrand helliants, do it. If you want a mixed hybrid build, why not?

Basically they are noob

A dg rogue Got 14k hp in Arawn.

Yes, but where was his DPS on the ladder? Mages outdpsed him on unox half trying.
DG is great but it requires a ton of resources to sustain a DPS build in it. What I have seen work the best is for heavy chaos bosses or where armor is needed DG users keep EDL in their inventory and just swap over as needed. This gives you the temporary stat boost without needing to reb constantly and you can still keep your sick DPS builds.
The rogue mentioned is a full vit rogue and by an metric not a DPS toon.

Probs cuz arawn players think Hp means more damage

But na, that isn't it. Arawn has existed as a single clan server limited competition for a while now, since 2014 really. The only competition they had was on lower bosses (mordy was the highest) and at that point alt builds were all that mattered. Also the server has had a high population which enabled them to down anything without needing to maximize builds for bosses. This combined with extremely conservative players who don't like swapping build ideas when formulas change and new bosses have a different defensive stat set means that their players usually have meh builds compared to the rest of the game.
But it works for them, or it did up until BT. Arawn hasn't downed BT in a month now, only killing it 4 times.
Way I see it, everyone has the right to build their toon however they want it, so long as
1) they don't expect to be geared the same as those who build themselves for the clan
and
2) the clan is still able to kill things efficiently
After that each person really has the right to do what they want with their toon. If you want to fight for kills, do it. If you want to be able to solo kill banebrand helliants, do it. If you want a mixed hybrid build, why not?

Basically they are noob

I'd agree with that.
Really the environment on arawn hasn't promoted competitive interplay so players haven't had a reason to care. 90% of the server lives with the attitude that if it isn't broke don't fix it (one of a million reasons why I left the server).

Geez, this topic quickly came from being about Bloodthorn to instantly talking about Arawn without any needed input from any of Resurgence members. Have to admit that’s pretty impressive.

Although it feels pretty nice to have our clan being thought of in pretty much every scenario, it would be appreciated if you could die down the drama and insults especially since it’s not even remotely on topic with Bloodthorn feedback. Resurgence has a pretty fun and large community with some cool lock battles and people, and doesn’t need all the drama that some people are tying to stir. If low drama and a great community interest you, feel free to come on over!


Edit: Grammar mistake XD

Geez, this topic quickly came from being about Bloodthorn to instantly talking about Arawn without any needed input from any of Resurgence members. Have to admit that’s pretty impressive.

Although it feels pretty nice to have our clan being thought of in pretty much every scenario, it would be appreciated if you could die down the drama and insults especially since it’s not even remotely on topic with Bloodthorn feedback. Resurgence has a pretty fun and large community with some cool lock battles and people, and doesn’t need all the drama that some people are tying to stir. If low drama and a great community interest you, feel free to come on over!


Edit: Grammar mistake XD

How is pointing out a fact stirring?

Yes, I know that. How much health does full dg rogues normally run at BT on over servers? I’m already at 500 vitality so I mean I’ve already rebirthed a good deal to get a decent amount of health...what VR really needs to do is add more armour and chaos resists to DG like we’ve begged Otm to do. A leaf blows on me and I fall over in full dg

on epona around 6.5k

I run 6 flat before combo, so like 7.2 with

You’re close to mine then. I have a little more but takes a heroic to get up to 7k.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

Yup, please keep it to the BT Feedback.

Going back to the original topic: our best numbers so far were 47 lvl 220+ with about 3 under 220 present. I do believe we have discovered a built in trick that we missed before we had access to tier 8 offhands. We now I’ll have to wait another 3-4 weeks to try it out as our clan members of that class didn’t level up that particular offhand.

I do believe this raid may end up being somewhat druid dependent in order to keep numbers around 40.

Going back to the original topic: our best numbers so far were 47 lvl 220+ with about 3 under 220 present. I do believe we have discovered a built in trick that we missed before we had access to tier 8 offhands. We now I’ll have to wait another 3-4 weeks to try it out as our clan members of that class didn’t level up that particular offhand.

I do believe this raid may end up being somewhat druid dependent in order to keep numbers around 40.

100 poison resist won’t do much will it? Btw has anyone discovered the support mage offhand skill?