Celtic Heroes

It doesn’t matter what the rules are, people joined the clan knowing what the rules are.

If you’re not happy with the rules, then don’t join.

It’s like going to a country where you don’t like the laws, break them and get confused why the country punishes you.

This. No one cares if u had better option or not, there are rules, u dont like them, dont join. U cant tell VR not to ban u for buying or selling accs cus u had no better option and not to grief cus u had no way to compete on eg bosses other than that, h will still get banned.

There are places with different rules, dont try to portray the “free” servers as non biased and perfect because in these servers u can also noroll someone based on his gear, so lets be real here. Rolls servers like epona and taranis are nothing more than votes with a dice.

As for the “I joined clan, I earned it, its mine”. Lets see it like that. Ur a mage, u joined clan, another mage had shadow gele wand (firebolt) and now has won void. He doesnt need to return his shadow, he obviously earned it, why should he care for mages like u guys who want to earn it too? Just buy it with gold lul, screw ur effort right?

In other words, this “I earned it its mine” is like kids in kindergarden with their toys. That mindset is the real greedy mindset, as u are the reason ur fellow clanmates will not be as well geared as they could be, solely for ur own selfish desires. U are one individual in a large group of individuals, like u crave to have importance as an individual different than the rest, each and every other individual is important too. Ur mindset makes u feel like ur the most important one, cus u want ur desires on the expense of others who worked hard for ur “hard earned gear”. The idea of a clan is teamwork, u help me, I help u. Not I help u, u flip me off and sell the gear I helped u get.

Just stop being selfish 4heads

It doesn’t matter what the rules are, people joined the clan knowing what the rules are.

If you’re not happy with the rules, then don’t join.

It’s like going to a country where you don’t like the laws, break them and get confused why the country punishes you.

I’ve had my own experience with it. I left a clan after opposing other generals and guardians over a scammer they couldn’t accept was a scammer. Whilst I’d put years into the clan and into perfecting the build itself. They asked me to return my old gear. I flat out told them No.

Why is it selfish keeping gear I worked for even if I no longer support the clan?

It’s not really. I put that effort in. I actively tried to get the gear. It’s on my character. It was given to me without any return requirements. As far as I’m aware that sounds like mine to me.

The best way I found to deal with the spam and harresment of it was to flat out deny returning it and/or block people asking you to do it

A clan that asks for your gear back is clearly a corrupt clan, as they only wanted you for your strength, and when you’re gone they want to replace that strength regardless of who it will be

It doesn’t matter what the rules are, people joined the clan knowing what the rules are.

If you’re not happy with the rules, then don’t join.

It’s like going to a country where you don’t like the laws, break them and get confused why the country punishes you.

This. No one cares if u had better option or not, there are rules, u dont like them, dont join. U cant tell VR not to ban u for buying or selling accs cus u had no better option and not to grief cus u had no way to compete on eg bosses other than that, h will still get banned.

There are places with different rules, dont try to portray the “free” servers as non biased and perfect because in these servers u can also noroll someone based on his gear, so lets be real here. Rolls servers like epona and taranis are nothing more than votes with a dice.

As for the “I joined clan, I earned it, its mine”. Lets see it like that. Ur a mage, u joined clan, another mage had shadow gele wand (firebolt) and now has won void. He doesnt need to return his shadow, he obviously earned it, why should he care for mages like u guys who want to earn it too? Just buy it with gold lul, screw ur effort right?

In other words, this “I earned it its mine” is like kids in kindergarden with their toys. That mindset is the real greedy mindset, as u are the reason ur fellow clanmates will not be as well geared as they could be, solely for ur own selfish desires. U are one individual in a large group of individuals, like u crave to have importance as an individual different than the rest, each and every other individual is important too. Ur mindset makes u feel like ur the most important one, cus u want ur desires on the expense of others who worked hard for ur “hard earned gear”. The idea of a clan is teamwork, u help me, I help u. Not I help u, u flip me off and sell the gear I helped u get.

Just stop being selfish 4heads

Yeah, but no player sets the game rules. I have seen players harassed for this kind of stuff. It's a shame especially in dkp/akp systems, because you earn points to "buy" items. I'm referring to when they leave clans I must point out, but hoarding gear from clannies is a whole different thing.

People who have quoted me and said that it’s not fair, etc, I understand.

You can leave the dom clan and sell the drops you received or whatever, just don’t expect to be treated with respect by the majority.

It doesn’t matter what the rules are, people joined the clan knowing what the rules are.

If you’re not happy with the rules, then don’t join.

It’s like going to a country where you don’t like the laws, break them and get confused why the country punishes you.