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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#51
no, then one person can camp, attack first and keep himself alive with pots and his clan can take their time arriving when a more organized clan is ready first but didn't land the first hit


i think if you take down 25% of the boss' health before another clan arrives it locks to you,
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#53
So you are saying a full group that is ready can be ksed by 1 warrior who attacks first that sounds fair :roll: rolf
YES. Who is to say the warrior isn't ready? Or has clannies on the way. Why should the group get the advantage for waiting around?
If the group wants the boss, then they'll need to attack first. If the warrior dies, and the mob resets then they can hop all over it.
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Lol this great tell me how you feel when I solo a boss and get all the drops because I attacked first because I have faster reflexes you won't be happy
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#54
lol the only way that idea would ever work is if another group could buff the boss/ debuff the group engaged



i think we should be able to cast lures on other players out f pvp anyways, it would add a whole new tactic to boss fights, same goes with giving buffs to bosses

(wouldnt it be amazing if a clan you hated was killing a boss and you gathered all your casters to spam wards/heals/buffs on the boss while luring/debuffing the clan to make it easier for the boss?)



still, leave the bosses the way they are, it is an MMORPG and Free For All boss fights are best
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#55
Would it help to lock the target when you attack it, so the first person to attack it would be awarded the kill?
Thanks admin. While there are plenty of (for the lack of a better word) 'better' ideas out there on how to prevent ks's, this is probably one that can be done.

While it may help a little, this still wouldn't address the issue of a clan ammasing a big group to fight a boss and one level 140 just running past all those who got to the boss first, not grouping anyone, then when thier clan mates show up they only invite them.

That would allow even more bullying and prevention of mid levels completing quests.

That problem bieng shown, that method of high level oppression would actually be lessened by admin's proposed new system. The reason is the 140 does a bunch of damage to the mob that would make that groups effort to retake the kill futile. But under the proposed system, this ammasing group could just hit it and stay alive and therefore prevent the high level kser from running in and stealing it.

All that said Admin, I think your idea would create a new and more fair dynamic for gameplay, and I wholeheartedly support first hit locks the mob!
Last edited by mdimarco on Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#56
Would it help to lock the target when you attack it, so the first person to attack it would be awarded the kill?

Locking the boss would cause many many more complaints than how the game is now. Changing how a kill is awarded has a huge effect on many aspects of the game, please do not make any change like this it will be a different game and IMO for the worse.

This is coming from a non kill stealer :)
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#57
Would it help to lock the target when you attack it, so the first person to attack it would be awarded the kill?

Locking the boss would cause many many more complaints than how the game is now. Changing how a kill is awarded has a huge effect on many aspects of the game, please do not make any change like this it will be a different game and IMO for the worse.

This is coming from a non kill stealer :)

hate quoting elim... lol :lol:
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#58
Would it help to lock the target when you attack it, so the first person to attack it would be awarded the kill?

Locking the boss would cause many many more complaints than how the game is now. Changing how a kill is awarded has a huge effect on many aspects of the game, please do not make any change like this it will be a different game and IMO for the worse.

This is coming from a non kill stealer :)
Depends on how you define kser. Do you run in and attack a boss first and don't invite the group that was there preparing for battle before you were there?

That is the one of the worst types of kill stealing in my book but you probably do that. The admins proposed system would give lower lvl groups more confidence to attack first and would also prevent traditional killstealing where the low level group does attack first and then a high lvl steals the kill.

Then the high level can wait around and if the low lvl group dies, the monster resets and the high level could then be the first to hit and lock the mob.

All around it would be a great change.
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#59
The biggest problem on danu, in all clans is that not everyone has full warden, now we want to kit out our entire clan with warden, Astrial, frozen etc, but we simply don't have enough dd's let alone tabs and rems to be able to do that.

The easiest way to do that is for the players who need those discs go and hunt the bosses, then shout when they spawn and the higher levels will sprint to the spawn to kill and get the drops to be handed out.

We now are only short dragon discs, so pretty much anything else that spawns is left to the players/clans that need them.
However we still collect the other discs as when someone joins the clan that needs them we still have a stockpile to hand out.

Simple solution is that if you want to be kitted out, spend a few months levelling up to 100, like the rest of us did get invited to join us, then get given them.

And definitely DON'T LOCK THE BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be horrendous as one player can keep a boss without dying now, until more join in.
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Re: Stop the monopoly or fix it please

#60
I like the lock first hit if you don't hit first and the one who does is not ready simply stand aside and watch them die. Then your group can try at it. People like the clans monopolizing dragon frags that is their way to extort gold out of the game. Stonevale used to be end game and there were no 140s running around to prevent them from getting theirs.
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