Celtic Heroes

Hi all,

I am Pikel from Rhiannon. I am currently a lvl 131 full support druid. I have full frozen armor and decided to post a comparison between frozen and diamond so that folks can see the differences between the two. This post will be very long, so bear with me...
Also, this forum will not let me put space between everything like i wanted to, so please forgive the over use of slashes to seperate things.

These are the stats of both armors:

Diamond:

///////////Gloves//////////////Sandals/////// Circlet///////////Legs//////// Robes//////////// Totals

Armor///////15///////////////// 20////////////30//////////////45///////////55///////////////165 Armor

Weight////// 2//////////////////4///////////// 6///////////////8///////////10////////////////30 Weight

Resists
Heat////////30/////////////////40/////////////60//////////////100/////////120///////////////350 Heat
Cold////////30/////////////////40/////////////60//////////////100/////////120///////////////350 Cold
Magic///////30/////////////////40/////////////60//////////////100/////////120///////////////350 Magic

Focus///////5//////////////////7//////////////10///////////////15//////////20///////////////57 Focus

Vitality//////5//////////////////7//////////////10///////////////15//////////20///////////////57 Vitality

Diamond Icon

Weight 55
Speed 3400
Weight 10
+200 Nature Magic


Frozen Cosmic
/////////////Gloves/////////Sandals//////////Circlet///////Legs/////Robes/////////Totals
Armor////////20/////////////25//////////////35///////////50///////70////////////200 Armor

Weight///////1//////////////2////////////////4////////////6////////8/////////////21 Weight

Resists
Heat/////////35/////////////50//////////////70///////////120///////145///////////420 Heat
Cold/////////35/////////////50//////////////70///////////120///////145///////////420 Cold
Magic////////35/////////////50//////////////70///////////120///////145///////////420 Magic

Health///////24/////////////30//////////////36////////////48////////72///////////210 Health

Energy///////32/////////////49//////////////66////////////98///////164///////////409 Energy

Spell Attack
Evasion//////150/////////////0//////////////150////////////0////////150//////////450 Spell Evasion

Movement
Attack Evasion/0/////////////150/////////////0/////////////150///////150//////////450 Movement Eavasion

Frozen Totem:
Damage 60
Speed 3300
Weight 4
Health 60
Energy 120

3% chance to proc Bane of Crom


Ok, so those are the stats for both sets of armor. The big question now is how do these stats affect my toon and my abilities as a full support druid. Now, i will post up my stats and how each set affects a few spells....

These are my current stats, keep in mind that this is without any type of jewelry.....

Naked Stats:

Strength 5......................Health 1063.............Attack 52
Dexterity 5......................Energy 3125.............Defence 10
Focus 500..................................................Damage 1
Vitality 170...................................................Armor 0

Spells (all spells shown are maxed 30/30):
Natures Touch 927
Natures Breath 478
Natures Embrace 139 (per tic)
Shield of Bark 370

Stats with Full Diamond Armor including Totem:

Strength 5........................Health 1419..............Attack 656
Dexterity 5........................Energy 2924..............Defence 10
Focus 500 (557).............................................Damage 158
Vitality 170 (227).............................................Armor 165

Spells (all spells shown are maxed 30/30):
Natures Touch 968
Natures Breath 498
Natures Embrace 145 (per tic)
Shield of Bark 386

Stats with full Frozen Cosmic armor Including Totem:

Strength 5................Health 1333........Attack 656
Dexterity 5................Energy 3341........Defense 10
Focus 500....................................Damage 172
Vitality 170....................................Armor 200

Spells (all spells shown are maxed 30/30):
Natures Touch 927
Natures Breath 478
Natures Embrace 139
Shield of Bark 370


So you may be asking, "what do all these fancy number mean to me?". Well, as a full support druid, and most high level druids choose to go full support because it is impossible to solo at these levels, Diamond armor is clearly superior to Frozen armor due to the stat boosts. As a support druid you will not be in combat taking hits so the extra armor, resists, and evasions really do not do anything for you. Sure it may help with some boss aoe's and an occasional hit from an add, but if you have a good group, it really isn't worth donning.

Lets delve a little deeper into how the different armors affect your spells. Keep in mind that these numbers are only for this build. Diamond armor gives you an extra 41 pts to your Natures Touch spell versus Frozen. Diamond gives you an extra 20 points to your Natures Breath spell versus Frozen. Diamond gives you an extra 6 points per tic to your Natures Embrace spell versus Frozen. Diamond armor give you an extra 16 point to your Shield of Bark spell. These numbers seem small, and they are at this high focus level, those with less than 500 focus may see an even bigger increase in these numbers due to the diminishing returns provided by taking focus over around 370.

I believe the real benefit that Diamond Armor provides over Frozen Cosmic can also been seen when comparing health and energy. Wearing full Diamond armor you get an extra 86 points of health versus Frozen. While wearing Diamond you actually lose 417 points of energy. Now, you have to determine which is more important to you as a full support druid. I have 130 energy sigils and with full gear I regen 165 pts per tic of energy. I find that this is plenty for me and that I never run out of energy during a boss fight as long as I stay out of combat mode and avoid any DOT spells. In fact, my energy bar rarely goes below half except during very long boss fights. So for me, the diamond armor is still superior due to the extra bit of health over energy that it provides. This helps me to take a boss AOE spell and keep on healing. Keep in mind that your mileage may vary according to your build, gear, and sigils. If you do not have sigils or good regen gear, the extra energy provided by the Frozen armor may outweigh the small gains to your spells and health.

So, in conclusion, Diamond is just a litlle bit better for a focus build, full support druid. Devs, please take a look at the comparison of Diamond versus Frozen armor and release Dragon armor with stats bonuses instead of energy and health bonuses. Thanks to anyone who actually took the time to read through this massive post. If you have any questions or need any help in game, feel free to ask. Also, if there is any interest, I may be persuaded to post a comparison showing what the plus 200 nature magic provided by the diamond icon actually does for you....

Outstanding post. Nice job. Devs really need to look at this. It makes no since to put countless hours in to putting the pieces together for the quest armour when it is not better. That is a huge mistake in development as this is one of the key portions of the game.

I put very little money into the game yet could acquire the diamond armour now. I am no where near full frozen.

Nothing to strive for, I will lose interst very quickly.

Hey Pikel I got a question. How come with your diamond on and it adds 57 focus how come you have less energy?

Hi MasterHealer,

The reason I have less energy while wearing Diamond armor is due t a couple reasons. First, the Frozen armor actually gives an energy bonus instead of a focus bonus. At very high focus (500) the amount of energy you receive from each point is diminished compared to what you would receive at lower focus lvls. Second, the Diamond armor actually weighs more than the Frozen armor, this also reduces your energy pool.

Personal opinion : diamond all the way ( full set) for a support druid I mean.frozen is a waste of time at the moment.does nothing to help assist druids.frozen would help a dps druid.my work here is done

diamond somehow looks cooler than frozen.