Celtic Heroes

Ok, I think we all could agree here, something needs to be worked out. Personally, I could care less for the boss because I see everyone at him, all day, everyday. That's not the issue. Me and Bubbles had a chat and we both seemed to agree that the four clans (i.e. Serenity, BadaBing, Celts, and Uskoci) need to form a plan because this is getting rediculous, people camp there literally all day to make sure they get in and most already spam it up who have full armour already(valid point made by sugerbear) I personally have the feeling its spammed up out of personal gain(don't wanna say greed but you know I mean it:)) because dragon fragments have risen in general price from 50k to well over 100k. So what I propose is we have a huge meeting right here to discuss this issue because not only are lower levels forced to wait till 90 (Stinger) but also because this one boss has risen fights between most clans (Bada and celts can't deny). So please if your a guardian or chieftain plz post a solution u see fit, my only purpose here is to strike the topic and get it moving:) thank you for your time.

I'm over this damned boss. Like i said in a previous post...

Personally, I'm not going anywhere near it, unless I get called to it.

But

In order to kill the boss, and I'm talking easily without using pots and idols, you really do need at least a full warden tank, two decent druids and decent DPS for the rest of the group. This doesn't mean full warden druids, or DPS, but the druids probably should be lvl 75+? Any lower than this and he is a struggle to keep up on, unless you have 3 in group or some nice person helping outside of group. But the tank should be strong, unless the tank is 80+ and has idols galore... then it is possible to do without the breastplate (in my opinion)

I agree that it is time for some of the full warden guys to take a step back and let the others have a go... Some are merely gearing their alts... they may be planning to change their alts to their mains... who knows.

There will never be a complete solution, I think it should be first in first served, so long as the group is capable of killing it without outside help... outside help should only be needed to kill it faster, or to make the druids less panicked... not to make the boss possible to kill...

But there will never be a proper accord for this boss... once the frag fever settles in and these guys see Falgren sitting there... all friendships, proper conduct and right and wrong go out the window.

A good example of this was a few days ago when there was a mixed group on Deadroot, we had great outside helpers, Brutus was sitting beside us for ages... Deadroot died... a Celts tank from outside the main group rushed to Brutus and started asking to be healed and telling us not to KS... then steadily members of the Deadroot group dropped group and joined the Brutus group... I just shook my head and went to kill some druids while the bloodgrove was clear...

Dropping off on the group you've just been in killing a boss with to go to another group killing a boss right next door, when the group you were in knows it is up; is another rant all together, so I won't go into it... there just seems to be players that don't share the same "it's rude to do that so I won't do it" philosophy that I have... (or try to have)

Well usually I get invited, but then I try my best to organize a group consisting of all four clans. I then find one more person who is in need of a dragon, and drop for them. I feel the need that we need to discuss more than just spamming falgren. We also need to decide what each clan accepts, and doesn't accept in terms of rushing and ksing.

I'm over this damned boss. Like i said in a previous post...

Personally, I'm not going anywhere near it, unless I get called to it.

But

In order to kill the boss, and I'm talking easily without using pots and idols, you really do need at least a full warden tank, two decent druids and decent DPS for the rest of the group. This doesn't mean full warden druids, or DPS, but the druids probably should be lvl 75+? Any lower than this and he is a struggle to keep up on, unless you have 3 in group or some nice person helping outside of group. But the tank should be strong, unless the tank is 80+ and has idols galore... then it is possible to do without the breastplate (in my opinion)

I realize you weren't here when the update just came out. Back then we were able to do falgren with a tank who didn't have warden and 2 druids. Nowadays 1 good tank and 1 druid and possibly 1 ranger is enough. If you have a good tank he doesn't even need warden. And no pots/idols.

I usually stay away from falgren, but when I'm there I usually see celts and bada rushing at it and sometimes a person from one of those clans waiting for it to spawn (no offense).

If you guys really want to help a falgren group, heal outside of group, or even tank outside of group. If tank has auto attack turned off and doesn't land hits, only taunts, the noob group will get the kill.

Though I personally am all for the lower lvls to learn fight the bosses on their own like we did back in the day.

True that xell... I meant for it to be super easy, as most ppl playing nowadays seem to want...

Like with two decent druids it means u don't have poor old sav out the back stressing out healing as fast as possible because the tank has no idols so if he dies we all die waiting for him to run back!

I think if the tank is Ericc a Druid isn't even required... He can tank with just bandage from the group... Would be interesting to test

True that xell... I meant for it to be super easy, as most ppl playing nowadays seem to want...

Like with two decent druids it means u don't have poor old sav out the back stressing out healing as fast as possible because the tank has no idols so if he dies we all die waiting for him to run back!

I think if the tank is Ericc a Druid isn't even required... He can tank with just bandage from the group... Would be interesting to test

If a warrior knows how to tank, then little healing is required. Sadly, only about 3-4 people on the whole server know how to really tank.

True that xell... I meant for it to be super easy, as most ppl playing nowadays seem to want...

Like with two decent druids it means u don't have poor old sav out the back stressing out healing as fast as possible because the tank has no idols so if he dies we all die waiting for him to run back!

I think if the tank is Ericc a Druid isn't even required... He can tank with just bandage from the group... Would be interesting to test

If a warrior knows how to tank, then little healing is required. Sadly, only about 3-4 people on the whole server know how to really tank.

Well that's gonna change when they get wyvern'd.

- Back to topic, regarding the insanity surrounding Falgren, I was in a group that was not a Serenity group, it was mostly one unnamed clan and maybe (2) others outside that specific clan, including myself... and this group was fully intent on KS'ing the other major clan group that had assembled. I was offered an elixir to help me do more damage... I declined and let them know that I would not be involved in any KS'ing.

Look Arawn... we are on the brink of jumping off of a cliff that I don't think there's any returning from.

A very simple solution is simply not making 100% clan groups. Instead have 4 clan members (If you were there first) and at least one other, totaling (3) from three other clans, if we can agree on that, if leaders can make their members understand that we need to be somewhat political here to make things run smoothly, then we might still have a chance.

Take last night for example. I am in the area trying to level and I get invited to a group. First of all I was excited because I don't get in many groups and then I see the lines being drawn. Bada vs Celts, who can line up the best dps for a free for all KS match. Then nightingale shows up, don't think she was In a group, and shouts, "OK, let's let all the non wardens have this one". My first thought was how imminently fair and wise this was. Especially since as I looked around I noticed all the 90+ toons with full sets of meteoric and wardens and me only a level 80 with no more than warden boots and gloves and haven't even finished the quest yet.. I'm thinking "yes!! I'm in.". But does anybody walk away? No.

So why is all this happening? It's very simple. When the recess bell sounds, we all run outside because we all want on the field to play the game. If you are not a great player you have to get the field and quickly pick teams and start the game before the older kids show up because then you will never get picked and end up playing on the swings with the kindergardners. We all want to play. It is very easy to sit back and say; "It's not fair, they already have their warden and are just being selfish so they can get dragon frags and sell them to little kids like me who have to grind on connach for weeks to afford the 200k some are charging. They should sit it out and let others have their chance."

Well, life is not fair. Those of us who were late to the game are paying the price of being late. The fact is the big dog wins. Little dogs look for crumbs or become friends with a big dog (or clan in our case). The level 100 players have been at this for 18 months. What right does a player of 3 months have to insist on being equal with that much effort? They have earned their right to be a big dog. If you want to catch them, then when the new area opens up, work your butt off on mobs that give good xp. Until then (which is only two weeks away) just enjoy the game. Start an alt of a class you havn't tried yet. I got tired of all the disappointment so I now have a level 70 warrior. I may start a ranger. I introduced my brother to the game and now we chat in game more often then we ever did on the phone. Or go read a good book. Remember books, on a thing called paper. You could even read The Good Book. Most people havent. Just relax and remember...


IT'S JUST A GAME.

Sorry if I sound preachy. With life's recent events I have a low tolerance on the stupid stuff we blow out of proportion. Concentrate on what is really important. Nightingale had it right. We can all be nice and share but don't get bent when people act like people. Just do your best to make Arwan a better place. If you want to change the world, change yourself.

Well, life is not fair. Those of us who were late to the game are paying the price of being late. The fact is the big dog wins. Little dogs look for crumbs or become friends with a big dog (or clan in our case). The level 100 players have been at this for 18 months. What right does a player of 3 months have to insist on being equal with that much effort? They have earned their right to be a big dog. If you want to catch them, then when the new area opens up, work your butt off on mobs that give good xp. Until then (which is only two weeks away) just enjoy the game. Start an alt of a class you havn't tried yet. I got tired of all the disappointment so I now have a level 70 warrior.

You do know that the game isn't even 12 months old yet right?? I'm about 6 months into the game, and I only got 3 characters at 70 and up, using only about 20 dollars in plat so far. The ones who are lvl 100 in our world started playing after I did. What does that show?? That if you're willing to put the money into it, you can be as good as the big dogs, but this seems to cause conflict. However I have heard that potions seem to have a longer cooldown in the update, and if this is the case, you're going to either need: a bunch of druids to heal you, so many dps it could cause the game to crash on a few people, or a few rez idols to keep yourself goin. So hopefully this will kick us in the @$$ a bit, and force us to work together a little better.