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Re: Level Recquirements

#21
Nice one Luk. But as you say, clan beliefs or attitudes dont reflect the members. I disagree with you on that statement. Here is why. You and other clan members know the opinions of your leaders and the way they play. Yet you and others continue your support and membership with that clan. Not saying that you have to agree wih a 100% of the opinions, however, in matters such as this actions count. This is not about agg or or other bosses. This is the way people are being treated. Yeah it's a game, you can act any way you want. Most people won't ever meet. From what I observed, read and been told, most peeps come to your clan specifically to gain advantage for bosses. Good for them. Again its a game and people can do what they want. But you must understand when people form opinions by the way you associate with others in the game. Btw, everything in real world is good. Patients are good and continuing to come in.
Another issue, are we to be awestruck about how much one spends on platinum? Who cares. Are we to bend over backwards for those peeps? It's your choice to spend money for platinum. Dont complain about it, your choice. And while on my soapbox, I give a shout out to Rick. He is probably one of the top five in platinum spenders on Lugh. Forgive me if im wrong, but I don't think he has ever been invited to an agg fight. Where is his "reward" for being at this moment the highest level in Lugh?? Have a great day.
Sarge1 : Druid 180+ Chief of Craven

Re: Level Recquirements

#22
If you notice sarge shad hasnt once responded to my statements, yet i continue to voice them i ask of you why do you believe we all are bad because we may reside under a 'bad' person i know many people who were simply in serkers for friends infact stefball and bloodoath both left when i did simply because they were only in the clan for me. Everyone has there reasons, i have recently invoked conversations about the rules altogether. Many people are voicing their ideas and now we see that people arent happy. I know most of serkers ideas are relayed through a person, mainly shad, but i hear what shad doesnt, the people who dont like these ideas and such they suggest ideas which i in turn take into account and try arrange a comprimise. The post i made about changing the level reqs and dicing for tridents and books were a compilation of darvs, wytts and mine ideas. These were not heard of by shad and look what this has developed into. Shad may be the leader but many people hold together a clan. Ideas may be lost in the transition between game and forum but people try and do their best. I have tried to write down what i can to encourage people go voice their opinions and stand up to someone. You wont get blacklisted just because you write an opinion if written correctly with people moderating it.

Also shad understand the world may have a big part to do with you but it isnt yours to control, we do expect our say to be taken into account and would appreciate it if you wouldnt reply to these people as if they are attacking your statements, we are simply analysing what we deem correct and what needs improvement. On multiple occasions you have replied harshly where its not needed. A level headed leader develops better ideas.
Lukov lvl 205 rogue
Lukov4 lvl 199 druid
Lukov2 lvl 63 warrior able to shield bash Aggy
Helpfullukov lvl 197 mage. Part three of the lukov combo
skywalker1 lvl 100 ranger
Expansion update 4 & destiny beta tester

Re: Level Recquirements

#23
Well said Luk. But again your mistaken. Just as an example, take Kam and I. We have voiced our opinions and look where we are. I think Shadow put on a post that agg has been done 15 times. I have only participated in 4 fights. I have been on for most of the fights. At the time, i believe there was only 1 or 2 druids higher than me and no one as high as Kam. As you correctly stated, Shadow hasn't responded and probably wont.
Sarge1 : Druid 180+ Chief of Craven

Re: Level Recquirements

#24
Did you have someone moderating these conversations? did you both have a level head to begin with? I do not have a problem with either of you, i do suggest you for many groups, i have invited kam into groups recently but as you removed me as a friend i could not find you when you are on. I understand sarge your points but i dont see how i can help, i shall leave you to your criticising and all the best.
Lukov lvl 205 rogue
Lukov4 lvl 199 druid
Lukov2 lvl 63 warrior able to shield bash Aggy
Helpfullukov lvl 197 mage. Part three of the lukov combo
skywalker1 lvl 100 ranger
Expansion update 4 & destiny beta tester

Re: Level Recquirements

#26
I deleted most of my friends list Luk. It was getting to big and all the notifications were becoming a pain. I will gladly add you again. Again these post are not meant to be criticism or nastiness. I was just trying to expose what was going on in Lugh and that it wasnt right. I think these debates have revealed some peeps true colors. They may deny greed and scream about platinum spent. It's there choice. Should they be given a "reward" for this? I have used many xp pots bu have spent no platinum. Just use the gold I have gained in the game. But look at it this way, are the pot users the lazy gamers of the game? Yeah we grind but we do receive extra xp for it. Is that reward enough? Like I stated in earlier post, this is a game, you have every right to associate with who you want, belong to any clan you want. There is no right or wrong on this matter. I have been with ancients and serkers. One longer than the other. It was my choice to leave. I have no regrets. I didnt like what I saw at the time, so I made my departure. I am happy with my clan. We are very small, just 4 of us. No politics, in fighting. We gladly help each other level, quest whatever. I hope your time with us reflects my statements. However, Im sorry to say, clan affiliation does reflect on the individual peeps. I dont know why that is so hard to understand. Why would anyone stay with any clan, not just yours, that its leader or leaders dont respond to their clanmates. That's a hard one to understand.
Sarge1 : Druid 180+ Chief of Craven

Re: Level Recquirements

#28
I had posted to this threa, but I can't see the posts anymore.

I won't re explain all. In short, I like 140/120 for lvls.
Civility, Integrity, and the Hermeneutic of Generosity

World: Lugh
Akbar: Ranger 220+
DrXyn-Druid 180+
Xyn: Mage 170+
Rabka: Rogue 150+
Rabak: Warrior 90+
Clan: Chieftain of Ancients

Re: Level Recquirements

#29
Thanks Akbar for resurrecting this. I had lost the thread and, although it veered wildly off-topic, still think it's important.

I also think level reqs should be 140/120 druid and stay that way. The rationale is simple--you can't do significant damage to Aggy below 140. (I'm perfectly fine with support mages being lower than 140--we just don't have any at the moment.) The only reason it should ever be lower is if we don't have enough people on (i.e., back in the old days when you had to walk uphill to school both ways in 8 feet of snow :D ). That hasn't been a problem lately from my understanding.

In fact, I think the concern is that there might be too many people. If that is the concern, we can come up with ways to manage the numbers showing. Lukov's idea of limiting groups is one. When the update comes out there will be mobs up to 180. I assume the new end game boss will be the 180, so there will be plenty for higher level players to do. And I think the level reqs should be 10 below the mob for those, too.
LongCool: 190+ mage
lcthief: 170+ rogue
lcwitchy: 85+ druid
World: Lugh
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