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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#21
If we're going to talk about mages how about making incinerate more on a par with cloak of fire ,seen as cloak of fire is useless against arrogarth it's making the the mages greatest skill cloak obsolete in the biggest boss fight incinerate should have a duration closer to that of cloak and with similer damage after resists r taken into account if your a few levels lower than arrogarth incinerate is virtually useless and cloak is not used at all
Really makes mages feel wanted having 2 useless skills the only thing we r particuly good at is speeding up group leveling

If it wasn't for lure of assasins I don't think anyone would even call me to a fight let alone in group
Wow

So much inaccuracy in one post I am shocked. If you are no help on Aggy then that's on you , my clan has probably killed him more than any other and I know it wouldn't be possible without our crew of mages that not only speed up the fight but make it so no plat needs to be used .
Why what do your mages do other than cast lure of assasins cloak of fire is not even cast once when we do it and my hits r like a little girl and will remain that way until I can add another 30 levels at snail speed I don't know if you have tried leveling a mage but the down time I between kills is terrible as for dps rogue and ranger easily out bang a mage
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#23
Why what do your mages do other than cast lure of assasins cloak of fire is not even cast once when we do it and my hits r like a little girl and will remain that way until I can add another 30 levels at snail speed I don't know if you have tried leveling a mage but the down time I between kills is terrible as for dps rogue and ranger easily out bang a mage

Having never killed agg myself can you tell my why cloak does not work with him? Does he only cast?
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#25
Horrible comparison by skills 100% bs your comparing a dps with a mage of course mage skills will be better they are based around it
Exactly. I think Fromen is either doing exactly what we mages did for weeks and monthes (namely, whining his class in underpowered), or he doesn't want mages to be able to out-damage warriors because then he couldn't ks them. (Just kidding.)

Seriously though, the fact that you're comparing skills between one class that's exclusively based on them for doing anything, and another that only uses skills as a way to keep aggro and deal a little more damage, isn't utterly right.
To be fair, you should be comparing the average dps each class deals on mobs, including melee (even though mages don't use melee if they can avoid it). Also, compare what's comparable (as much as possible, same level gear, same number of points invested in the skills you want to compare, and the same mob to test on).

Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#26
Has anyone ever heard the expression DPS?

It means DMG per Second. As in the overall DMG effected over a given time frame.

A Mage got a huge boost, but it's a boost that they use purely skill-based. Meaning their skills go on Cooldowns, and they need to wait to reuse them. Whereas a Warrior/Rogue/Ranger using Radiant gear and auto attack can still do a pretty serious DPS even if their skills may be a little less (at times) depending on the build.

This is a thread that doesn't use common sense to formulate true statistical conversation. If you gave us a detailed DMG comparison over say 30 seconds, stop watched and counted, either by video or just by general estimation we could truly compare the overall DMG that each class are displaying over a period of time.

Thus comparing the true DPS of the class, but anything else is generalization, and as unreliable in conversation as anything else. Until a Mage can Melee harder than a Coast Wolf let me know.
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#27
Has anyone ever heard the expression DPS?

It means DMG per Second. As in the overall DMG effected over a given time frame.

A Mage got a huge boost, but it's a boost that they use purely skill-based. Meaning their skills go on Cooldowns, and they need to wait to reuse them. Whereas a Warrior/Rogue/Ranger using Radiant gear and auto attack can still do a pretty serious DPS even if their skills may be a little less (at times) depending on the build.

This is a thread that doesn't use common sense to formulate true statistical conversation. If you gave us a detailed DMG comparison over say 30 seconds, stop watched and counted, either by video or just by general estimation we could truly compare the overall DMG that each class are displaying over a period of time.

Thus comparing the true DPS of the class, but comparing Ice Shards to a Pummel is asinine. Comparing a Melee class's weaker skill to a skill-based classes uber skill. And misses the point of the entire meaning of DPS.

Well have you play as warrior yourself ik for fact the a figthing druid can overpower any warrior tank and sometimes so hybryd warriors ..... Come and visit danu i will show you a few pure damage duids......

And thats exactly my point warriors can not be dps as they are now they are damage warriors ..... If. U add a blade or dagger to any Caster class damage will be minimun around 120 per melee hit tested on my druid against mobs same lvl .....
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#28
I was talking Mages. This thread is about Mage's right? Ever see a Mage's wand DMG? They are literally going H2H now.

Druids do gain a little bit from their Melee, nothing major, but they can potentially weigh into a DPS role if they want to.
At a lesser clip than most other classes.

But if yer being out DPS'd by a Druid, like seriously out DPS'd, yer doing something terribly wrong my brother. And I don't know what anyone can say to help you...

If you want Warriors to be better say that. Just say Warrior skills need to be better, but you ripped on a Mage for literally no reason, and made Mages the topic of your post.
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#29
This post made me LOL

Funny, make a mage get it over to 130, then talk.
To actually have dps like that, you guys need max points in lures, or else with max fireball, and 1 lure, you'd be hitting 250 less, and thats ice shards.

Also, to maintain that dps, you need MASSIVE POINTS in energy, WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON WE WERE COMPLAINING.

So get your unfathomable straight, and actually check your facts, or confirm them with a mage before complaining there op'd

A mage cant be massive dps (which is all points in lures and magic spells, and still wont be able to out dps a ranger) without lasting one minute in a boss fight, draining all thier energy.
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Re: Are we getting mage crazy ? Building a way OP clase?

#30
I was talking Mages. This thread is about Mage's right? Ever see a Mage's wand DMG? They are literally going H2H now.

Druids do gain a little bit from their Melee, nothing major, but they can potentially weigh into a DPS role if they want to.
At a lesser clip than most other classes.

But if yer being out DPS'd by a Druid, like seriously out DPS'd, yer doing something terribly wrong my brother. And I don't know what anyone can say to help you...

If you want Warriors to be better say that. Just say Warrior skills need to be better, but you ripped on a Mage for literally no reason, and made Mages the topic of your post.

Nah i love what u did as game tester for druids and thank you.
But I hate the results for warriors.

Im glad the mages got benefit but my post is to give time to settle down this changes. For mages and dont make over power to a point that they will nefted in a time soon i love to play all classes .

Nothing really wrong with my warrior just the class is the bad

For example
A few weeks ago we kill drake being a full group of warriors ( damage build warriors)lvl 110 to 131 took around 35 minutes because was only warriors. And before we have taking him with a group of 3 rogues under lvl 110 and 1 tank and 1 hybrid warrior took only 10 minutes ...... Hybryd/damage/tank i will never win a kill against a rogue/ranger at my same lvl. I love to compete . But general feeling here is warrior should be tanks only.....
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