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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#21
I actually did the math and found..
The following gear can get you 3700-3800 damage (on stat page with sharpen and steady) 450 of it being divine with just barely over 10k attack (with steady)
-runic Ammy
-Skain charm (250 attack, 145 strength)
- majestic proteus brace (str/dex and 675 attack) x2
-2 runic rings of valor (add 100 str 400 attack and 600hp)
- majestic necral ring of (700bow ability)
-godly divine damage ring

-Edl bow
-dl offhand
-full edl
-mordris helm (+600 attack) and 100 stats
The gear a mentioned is gear similar that mine or gear easily accessible to me. Ofc if I had access to necro rings I'd put that down instead of runic rings (even the mighty tier) I've lost faith in OTM lol. Of course the mord helm could be replaced... Void is actually almost DOUBLE the dark tier which really makes me mad :/. Proteuss braces can be higher tiers as well, I actually don't have access to these because of the clan I'm in but they are dropping like rain.
I like this build as you keep the divine damage with a relatively high attack. Anyother damage is basically nothing in front of the 100 divine from divine ring plus the ability to land most hits. This build ofc is for chaos bosses... for non chaos bosses I'd ditch the divine

Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#22
I think asking Ifor a upgraded divine ring should be used is yes, if 10 rondel rogues are present their skills don't stack, but they won't trade their rondel for a lvl 200 offhand axe which adds 400 heat, 210 str and 350 attack. Doesn't 400/210/350 seem alot better than 35 pierce 150 divine. Referring to dl rondel only here. Well no dl rondel adds no attack but is used for the divine dmg which is key. Divine dmg is tremendously important. Which is why I'm pro divine ring.

Most of your auto dmg comes from divine so the opportunity to add 65-100 divine dmg from a ring slot is remarkable. Not to mention the divine rings add dexterity, which in turn boosts attack as well as attack from steady aim. (Dex based) for rangers. For rogues you just get the attack from the rings dex boost.

Would you rather have 13k attack with 450 divine.
Or 12.4k-12.6k attack (dex adds att) with 515-550 divine.
Also the health is nice for survivability. Expecially with proteus.

I personally think Skain is best for edls. Maybe hrung. I think 7-8k is acceptable for edls. For necro my opinion is more attack. Resists are high. Divine is key. Divine dmg through autos, autos need to land.

No reaper rings on android but we make due. I boss with 10.4k attack on Fingal atm. No mordy helm yet. Imperial bow ring. 90,90,900. Double royal heat dmg attack hrung braces atm. 70 divine 90 dex ring. 2 runic valor rings. Skain storm leaf charm. Stargem str ammy. 200 attack. With 600 attack skill. 11k attack while skill is active with dl quiver wraith.

Edl, edl bow, dl quiver.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#23
2. would u replace reaper for necral weapon ring? I assume it also depends on tier so from what tier would u replace?
i have 2 majestic(700) bow rings. my base attack is 8k and 1.1k of that is from my reaper ring so i wouldnt replace it, godly ability ring is the only item that comes close to that attack boost and id rather replace a different ring if i ever got one
Well I as a warrior have a lot of attack coming from Frenzy, thus Reaper doesnt have as much affect on me and I would choose necro ring. Also, think about the fact that Attack elixir only boosts ur base attack and not the reaper's one, so lets say u replace reaper for royal oblivion, u lose 300 attack, gain a lot of dmg (80 str 800 bows) and extra 80 vit which cant hurt, and elixired, u might actually have higher attack than u would have elixired with the Reaper.

For example, on a lvl 210 tank, his normal defence is 5309. A huntsman ring would greatly improve his defence over a 400 defence ring, but elixired, with the 400 defence ring he'll have 6691 defence and with the huntsman he'll have 6713 defence, so elixired huntsman is worth only 22 more defence but u lose 400 evasions (runic alchemy ring, or if u prefer imperial emberdrake then u lose 400 hp 500 melee combat), so elixired the huntsman is actually worse and the tank doesnt use that ring (as hes always tanking elixired).

Same applies for attack, assuming u will want to use heroic attack elixir on every fight, this is why Im not a fan of a reaper ring although I dont have necro ring or proteus braces thus my attack needs to be increased, but reaper doesnt add enough for me and if I had 3 necro rings, I would get rid of bladeleaf set and keep either gara charm (100 str 300 attack) or skain stormleaf charm (145 str 250 attack).
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#26
@criminal you make a good point, I'll do some tests.
Its very dependent on ur gear and class, its especially clear for warrior (Frenzy for attack, def form for defence) and rogue (only on defence if he uses fast reflexes, but why would he use that or huntsman anyway). Steady Aim doesnt add a lot so it always depends on the gear.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#27
@criminal you make a good point, I'll do some tests.
Its very dependent on ur gear and class, its especially clear for warrior (Frenzy for attack, def form for defence) and rogue (only on defence if he uses fast reflexes, but why would he use that or huntsman anyway). Steady Aim doesnt add a lot so it always depends on the gear.
even just a majestic bow ring after lixs only gives 100 less attack than reaper equipped. so it seems Royal bow ring is perhaps on par if not better than a reaper ring when lixed. I'm unsure of physical resistance and poison resistance at the moment so I'll continue using a reaper but that's good info to know.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#28
It really hinges on the persons build. Personally my build + reaper gets me over 1k att even more if with steady aim.

The argument would be valid for a char that ran mostly strength. Just to put a few numbers out there for you guys, as a ranger, with reaper + steady aim, no lixs, my att is boosted by 1685 att. However, if I wanted to later switch up my build a royal+ bow ring may be more beneficial than the reaper. Once again it hinges on the characters play style, build, and gear.
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