Celtic Heroes

if you compare Druids to mages mages can out dps the Druid pretty easily with similar gear.

Druids aren't meant to? If you give mages ability to heal then I guess their DPS should be the same.

Druids energy consumption sucks, but I would actually say that Druids are the most balanced class in CH skill-wise. The OTM skill system just sucks as well.

if you compare Druids to mages mages can out dps the Druid pretty easily with similar gear.

Druids aren't meant to? If you give mages ability to heal then I guess their DPS should be the same.

Druids energy consumption sucks, but I would actually say that Druids are the most balanced class in CH skill-wise. The OTM skill system just sucks as well.

I don't know exactly what should be done with Druids to make them more playable. Perhaps make energy harvest much better? But for similar equipped toons they are the slowest leveling all in all.

It's true at least Druids are versatile. Rouges may be good but they have the most limited builds.

I don't know exactly what should be done with Druids to make them more playable. But for similar equipped toons they are the slowest leveling all in all.

It's true at least Druids are versatile. Rouges may be good but they have the most limited builds.

First of all, the skill system needs a revamp. Players are limited to 4-5 skills with the current system, and very few gets to max 6 skills until they get lucky with Mordris drops.

In combat energy regeneration is also something that needs to be addressed. But OTM wants people to pay with plat and use restoration pots, that's why this is never going to change. An overall energy reduction in skills would be beneficial but a regeneration fix is more important imo. Which leads me to my next point.

Druids should benefit attacking with a weapon and because Howling Wind is a great skill for meleeing druids. Druids weapons should not be based on strength, and it should do more elemental damage.

Druids need a way to survive being attacked by multiple mobs. In many MMOs, healers have a way to protect themselves from pulling mob aggro. Either make root AoE (which is common in other MMORPGs) or a Fog spell that slows down mobs or a Petrify spell that freezes mobs. But again circling back to how the skill system needs to be fixed because all these support skills will always take a backseat on heal/buff skills.

Worst armor? Not really. Druids have Bark.

Last time I looked Bark was a spell, not armor.
If your talk about a protection spell, then maybe, but kind weird coming out of the month of a warrior tank...

Worst DPS? I think Druids with enough high level gear can easily outdps warriors and even some mages.

This is utterly stupid. Naked dps warriors and dps mages can far out dps druids

Highest Energy Cost - yes

Glad your not totally stupid

Slowest Leveling Class - debatable, are we talking solo or groups? Even if solo, a druid with high level gear can level faster than other classes. People just like to see big hits and get impatient.

Debatable?
Read the original post.
You comment has no facts!
My statement comes from a fact, there is FAR LESS HIGH LEVEL DRUIDS because they suck to level.

Least played and enjoyed class? Meh, it's really about the player. Very few players are really meant to play a healer class. This is true for any MMORPG. Most people, especially young boys who are the typical largest demographic in an MMORPG game likes to hit hard or hit fast. Those who play druids and get to the high levels do enjoy playing healer classes, and they don't even want to play any other class and always pick a priest or cleric type character.

AGAIN, where are your facts?
Druids in wow are one of the most popular classes.

Druids can certainly use some help and a lot of improvements to make them more interesting to players, but if you don't have the patience to be the healer type, it doesn't matter what they are.

I said nothing about druids not being interesting to play.
Druids are a fascinating and challenging class to play.
I absolutly love playing a druid.
THE ISSUE, Because of poor game mechanics, Druids have obsticles that need to be address.
Because of the poor balance of classes Druids are majorly disadvantaged.

As a warrior tank, there is only one class (with the proper skills) I would balk at attacking in arena. Guess what it is.

so now everything is judged with pvp?

I have played every class except a ranger (lack of plat)
With lixes and pots leveling every class except druids, is easy.

How about Druids serve a different purpose? They meant for supporting others. With a 150 healer druid with buffs maxed etc, any 190 rogue would hardly ever die during leveling. In fact, my rogue never dies. The Druids are good at low levels.

With this being said, OTM should reduce the level requirement for druid end game items. It would make 100% more sense. Druids don't need to be any higher than level 180 to be superior healers, and they would struggle greatly getting there as it is. So why should their gear from mordris etc be the same level requirements as other classes? Perhaps make skills increase to 40 at level 170 for Druids, this would be a simple solution as well.

Remember if there is balance then there's no point for having 5 classes they're meant to be different.

Worst armor? Not really. Druids have Bark.

Last time I looked Bark was a spell, not armor.
If your talk about a protection spell, then maybe, but kind weird coming out of the month of a warrior tank...

We are talking about Armor Rating no? Does it matter where it comes from? Raw armor from gear and armor from spell give the same damage resistance.

Worst DPS? I think Druids with enough high level gear can easily outdps warriors and even some mages.

This is utterly stupid. Naked dps warriors and dps mages can far out dps druids

Your world must be devoid of competent druid players. Either that or you are completely close minded about druids not being able to dps. Yrck and various other high level druids have shown time and again they can consistently beat other classes. Our own Sidi have been doing it for the last 2 years, though she hasn't played lately and her gear/levels lagged behind but it isn't inconceivable like you claim it to be.

Highest Energy Cost - yes

Glad your not totally stupid

Thank you. I think your generalizations about the Druid class is stupid though.

Slowest Leveling Class - debatable, are we talking solo or groups? Even if solo, a druid with high level gear can level faster than other classes. People just like to see big hits and get impatient.

Debatable?
Read the original post.
You comment has no facts!
My statement comes from a fact, there is FAR LESS HIGH LEVEL DRUIDS because they suck to level.

Again, you probably just have encountered stupid druid players. People only think druids suck to level because they want them to be like mages with heals. If they were actually played smartly, they're not that hard to level up compared to mages, either solo or in groups.

Least played and enjoyed class? Meh, it's really about the player. Very few players are really meant to play a healer class. This is true for any MMORPG. Most people, especially young boys who are the typical largest demographic in an MMORPG game likes to hit hard or hit fast. Those who play druids and get to the high levels do enjoy playing healer classes, and they don't even want to play any other class and always pick a priest or cleric type character.

AGAIN, where are your facts?
Druids in wow are one of the most popular classes.

LOL. Druids aren't the primary healer class in WoW. Clerics are. What a stupid analogy. Druids in WoW are more like bards in EQ. Very versatile yet doesn't particularly excel in one thing.

Druids can certainly use some help and a lot of improvements to make them more interesting to players, but if you don't have the patience to be the healer type, it doesn't matter what they are.

I said nothing about druids not being interesting to play.
Druids are a fascinating and challenging class to play.
I absolutly love playing a druid.
THE ISSUE, Because of poor game mechanics, Druids have obsticles that need to be address.
Because of the poor balance of classes Druids are majorly disadvantaged.

Player attitude has a lot to do with it. Druids aren't perfect, but they're not as broken as you paint them to be.

I have played every class except a ranger (lack of plat)
With lixes and pots leveling every class except druids, is easy.

Then I suppose you suck as a druid. Stick with non-healer classes.

I have played every class except a ranger (lack of plat)
With lixes and pots leveling every class except druids, is easy.

Try training a ranger to end game then you'll have twice as much to complain about.

IMHO, druids are broken because of wrong prices for lixes.
My assumption is that druids should be necessary both for bossing AND for training.

But:

A dps can use a super combo (4k) to solo for 15m gaining X amount of xp.
Or it can group a full support druid, use a super xp (2k) and no pots to gain 1/2 X xp in 15m.
(I know I am simplyfing, there are bonuses for group, etc.)

The gold spent per XP is the same, but the training speed is just one half. Therefore dps
either solo or prefer to train in large groups.

Super combos, on the other hand, do not increment the dps of druids. To solo effectively
support druids are forced to go dps.

I wonder what the game would be if health lixes costed 4 times more.

IMHO, druids are broken because of wrong prices for lixes.
My assumption is that druids should be necessary both for bossing AND for training.

But:

A dps can use a super combo (4k) to solo for 15m gaining X amount of xp.
Or it can group a full support druid, use a super xp (2k) and no pots to gain 1/2 X xp in 15m.
(I know I am simplyfing, there are bonuses for group, etc.)

The gold spent per XP is the same, but the training speed is just one half. Therefore dps
either solo or prefer to train in large groups.

Super combos, on the other hand, do not increment the dps of druids. To solo effectively
support druids are forced to go dps.

I wonder what the game would be if health lixes costed 4 times more.

combos are only 4k on your world? 0.0

Also, mages/druids don't need to use hastes, if a rogue, druid, mage went to a boss with no lixes i garrentee that it will be close. Also i meen rogues get boss aggro so easy which is why we need better armour than mage and druid who just stand back and cast skills at bosses. Solo leveling I have a druid alt and it is incredibly hard to level especially when nobody needs druids anymore as it's faster to solo level. And wait, mages have energy shield so u can't really moan about your armour, also druids have bark, whereas rogues have fast reflex. It's all fair here u just need to pick the right build.