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Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:23 am
by BLRD-7
Honestly.. The 5* rare red PH's (Doomclaw, Goretusk Juggernaut, Bonehead Gladiator, Bladewing Vanguard, Redbane Champion, Ironspike Vanquisher, Shivercowl Nightbringer, Spearhorn Destroyer, Herald of Deadroot and Rockbelky Conquerer) are pretty much just as hard as the real bosses themself. Honestly, I think they shouldn't be dropping Rems, Tabs or Skywings (I'm sure you can see where this is heading).

I've recently killed a Herald of Deadroot and it dropped a SKYWING. Yes the boss wasn't too hard for me as I'm a level 151 with a 125 Druid, but what about the level 80-90 group of members that go to take that, that end with a... SKYWING?

Also, I think for the difficulty of these mini-bosses, if they're to drop tabs/rems, they deserve more than just 1 tab or rem (when the real boss drops guaranteed, 3).

I'd like to suggest making these PH's, specific 'Bracelet Droppers'. So when you kill one, you know you're guaranteed a bracelet.. May be crap, may be awesome, but the risk is better than getting a Skywing or even a Fire tab., knowing a main boss will drop 3.

Also, I do like the idea that the Red PH's drop add items needed for upgrades.. I just don't think they should come from the 5*'s.

Really this post is just about me being p*ssed off that I took the time to solo a Herald of Deadroot for a, SKYWING.

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:40 am
by massadu73
they drops tabs sometimes , but only 1

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:48 am
by SHADOWKRAR
I got luckily one day a godly 10 pierce from an Herald of Deadroot, but most of the time, drops from these 5 stars are frikking jokes.

The real problem with these 5 stars, is that they mostly drop frikking amethyst or *** mystic charms. For example who would use a 1 pierce charm lol ?

Yes the 5 stars red place holders should at least garantee a quest item drop or a charm with a minimum of 50 resistance or 5 dps.

by the way skywing is a druid quest item, even if not so rare as a warrior copper goblet, but still worth at least 15k in resselling.

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:38 pm
by Airrius
Got u beat rap, pre-update I killed shiv night solo(no pot cooldown, loved it) and got a pristien boar hide. Yeah the exp was what i was after but I was so pissed.

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:48 pm
by Eliminater
I dnt think the 5stars are anywhere near as hard as the real bosses , but I feel ya on the drops , I can't tell you how man I have killed and it's so damn rare to get even a decent bracelet it's annoying .

But on that same note they are the only non ow bosses that I am happy to drop whatever I am doing to run and kill , maybe the rarity of the good bracers make them more exciting .

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:50 pm
by MadOnion
Cuz when the red bosses hit live
Players cried on forums its hard to find those items
Then those items got put in the loot

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:24 pm
by BLRD-7
Got u beat rap, pre-update I killed shiv night solo(no pot cooldown, loved it) and got a pristien boar hide. Yeah the exp was what i was after but I was so pissed.
Damn I think you got me Air :lol:

What about taking a Belly Conquerer for an Amber Demon Stone? That kinda sucked too :lol:

I know Skywing is a quest item, but we already have over 50 of them with 90% of clannies including alts already in Full Meteoric. I'd rather the quest items dropped randomly from the 1*, 2*, 3*, 4* and 5* Disciples, and left the Rares to drop Bracelets. Honestly, those bracelets are End-game for DPS classes.. (the resistance ones suck balls tbh), so the great ones should be hard to come by. I've killed over 500 Red PH's in the last week and the best damage bracelet I got was a +3 Slash which I gave to a clanny. I did get a 90% Cold Resist, but again.. Why would you want a 90% cold resist when you can have 50cold, 50heat AND 50magic resist.. From an invig.

I do believe the 5* Rares only drop Bracelets, Quest items OR A Rem/Tab (we don't really want rems or tabs from these dudes unless it's guarenteed to be for the boss of that tier - Rockbelly Conq guaranteed a Space, Shiver Night guaranteed a Star, etc). The Amethyst, Peridot, etc.. All come from the other PH's, 1-5* Disciples.

On a side note:

Poison Damage Bracelet - Useless
Cold Damage Bracelet - Useless
Heat Damage Bracelet - Useless
Magic Damage Bracelet - Useless

Why are the stated bracelets even in the loot tables? A +2 Crush/Slash/Pierce Bracelet is better than a Godly one of those.

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:43 pm
by Guffy
They need to multiply the elemental damage braclets by 5 at leas so the minor braclet gives 5 damage and godly 50

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:33 pm
by Croquette
totally agreed with rap and guffy.

Re: Regarding the 5* 'Rare' Red PH's.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:06 pm
by ThyraUnited
Elemental should multiply with focus like melee does strength. That would be perfect for mage and druids