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@Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#1
*assuming you're using a garanak/skain set with a reaper ring*

which ring setup do you think is going to increase your damage?
what is your current attack fully lixed and buffed?
is there a point at which you think more attack would be inferior to more divine damage?
do you think one trumps the other hands down?
(for those without garanak/skain set, reaper ring) if you could use a royal bow/dagger ability ring instead of a 90-100 divine ring in one slot, would you? and why would you do this?
if you think a certain tier is better but a lower tier would be worse please include tiers into your asnwers, even include at what tier you think the item will overtake the other and why.

personally i think stacking attack is the way to go but i am skeptical on some bosses and also if using a recast doubleshot/doubleattack item which would land more of the divine dmg and decrease the amount of possibly evaded autos making attack not as useful as it could be.. would like to hear what other rangers/rogues have tried think or tested
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#2
I join on that question. Would like to mention and ask :

1. If I had plenty of wep rings (I have none) Id even remove gara-skain set and make a new set to clear the spot for wep ring.

2. And thats a question, if u have 2 wep rings (necro ones) and assuming theres one ring ur not gonna replace (probably the divine one, I dont know if wep ring would be better), would u replace reaper for necral weapon ring? I assume it also depends on tier so from what tier would u replace?

Btw, Im leaning towards the divine, while the attack+dmg bonus is great I guess that high divine dmg is more reliable, but I may be wrong.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#3
i think as rogues are not burst dmg we dont really need skills so attack is the way to go,
atm i use gara skain mixed frost set with a attack ring ( 200 haste) and a valor ring ( 400attck etc) combined with the frost ring and a 70dmg divine ring.
i would use attack rings more if i wouldnt want to buy so many event chests..

id say the more attack the more usefull is your toon.
Damage doesnt really matters unless youre under 2,5k ( speakin bout 215-gele) what does much dmg brings you combined with low attck? so yes attack is the way to go unless you find a way to combine both dmg and attck id say stick to attck. I sadly get to a max amount of 7,95k attck lixed featuring 2,9k auto dmg
hope you were able or could understand it ,
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#4
It's a complicated question, no one has a working tested formula for attack and the % you hit that I know of, nor a formula for skill ability and landing %. Heck I don't think anyone has even tested that divine damage really is unresisted and posted it to the forums. It doesn't address survivabikity which may actually help dps if you are dying. A math problem has answers, at this point it's more just good guesses, opinions and preferences.

As a general rule of thumb I'd use your actual auto damage and skill hits (include misses as 0) and try it before and after a change. That's the only way to be confident even if it's not too helpful here.

I'm going to guess that each 100 divine damage is worth somewhere between 200 and 400 non divine but it depends on if that really changes your hit%, if the boss is lured/exposed, among other things.

Reaper rings tend to work best if you already have a high attack as they add %. Again I'm not sure how much is too much but I am guessing the returns past 8000 aren't worth the trade offs. Some bosses are easier to land autos on or specific skill types so it varies a lot.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#5
i think as rogues are burst dmg we dont really need skills so attack is the way to go
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Lmao this is a joke right? If a rogue was burst damage that'd mean either extremely slow auto attacks, or skills only.

As for the divine damage, it being unresisted and all. If you're hitting 600 on a lured boss and increase your divine damage by 70, that'd be a ~10% increase in damage output. Obviously attack plays a role and that's where you have to decide what's going to benefit you more, the attack or the damage.

@everyone here, pretty sure swan came up with formulas on attack/defence and total stats of all mobs and was forced to remove it by OTM. Maybe someone can search for it and we can get it up on anex' site
Good discussion boys

Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#7
i think as rogues are burst dmg we dont really need skills so attack is the way to go
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Lmao this is a joke right? If a rogue was burst damage that'd mean either extremely slow auto attacks, or skills only.

As for the divine damage, it being unresisted and all. If you're hitting 600 on a lured boss and increase your divine damage by 70, that'd be a ~10% increase in damage output. Obviously attack plays a role and that's where you have to decide what's going to benefit you more, the attack or the damage.

@everyone here, pretty sure swan came up with formulas on attack/defence and total stats of all mobs and was forced to remove it by OTM. Maybe someone can search for it and we can get it up on anex' site
i asked if you understood what im trying to tell. you didnt. I do not mean we aren burst dmg my mistake but i still vote for attack,
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#8
Its really complicated. Perhaps, when the tier is high enough, the dmg gained (over 100 easily) and the attack + bonus to skills will beat divine, cus perhaps it is 70 divine but much more phyical dmg that when lured will eventually do the same dmg as divine, except it'll also have attack bonus. I cant say for sure tho.
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Re: @Endgame dps classes, 2 wep rings or 1 w/ divine ring?

#9
Its really complicated. Perhaps, when the tier is high enough, the dmg gained (over 100 easily) and the attack + bonus to skills will beat divine, cus perhaps it is 70 divine but much more phyical dmg that when lured will eventually do the same dmg as divine, except it'll also have attack bonus. I cant say for sure tho.
it is difficult to explain.. :( ,
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