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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#11
To be honest, if you're at the point where your lux has amounted to 1-2 mill+, you should start selling them and investing in energy sigils.

Instead of one million worth of lux, you could get 1000 sigils. So every 5 seconds out of combat, you're regenerating 1000 energy. It's a no brainer, imo.
depends if u invest in energy regen items that also provide focus, like the 1m ammy, thats better dps wise if u want to spam pots i guess, but yes i wouldnt buy every single energy regen item (ring, helm, etc.) just to have more in combat regen, i would rather sigils.
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#12
i like how this started about as a noob post and not even 10 comments in and lv 50 lux is mentioned -.-
not everyone will use plat. and heck, i think going for dps increases would be better because mages get energy boost, which even if u have to sacrifice points from dps, at least u can have decent energy regen, and not waste 25-100k on energy regen u can get from some levels in energy boost. once again, ur sacficing a bit of dps, but this is for nubs like me, who dont need rediculous amounts of dps early game, sure they need the bonus dps of attune or storm, but thats all they will need until lv 60, then lux starts looking optimal when u get ur dps and survivability up.
if what i said doesnt make sense, ur not thinking from a noobs veiw, cause im a professional nub :3
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#13
i like how this started about as a noob post and not even 10 comments in and lv 50 lux is mentioned -.-
not everyone will use plat. and heck, i think going for dps increases would be better because mages get energy boost, which even if u have to sacrifice points from dps, at least u can have decent energy regen, and not waste 25-100k on energy regen u can get from some levels in energy boost. once again, ur sacficing a bit of dps, but this is for nubs like me, who dont need rediculous amounts of dps early game, sure they need the bonus dps of attune or storm, but thats all they will need until lv 60, then lux starts looking optimal when u get ur dps and survivability up.
if what i said doesnt make sense, ur not thinking from a noobs veiw, cause im a professional nub :3
(proffesional nub to me means im still a nub, but im getting close to mid game.)
Not everyone buy plat, i never bought any (i had some from chests tho), but in a game like this, where classes arent balanced, i would pick an easier class to handle and afford, if i wasnt a fan of warriors (and mages, but mostly warriors, on any game) i would prob choose the ranger as the main, i find the ranger the cheapest, although having some troubles with energy, ranger can quickly heal himself (and not with some crap heal like bandage), and he can have full auto build which will require less energy, while keeping high or even decent dps

The mage is good for farming, but this is a class which without having a great budget, u just cant be a high lvl, either if it comes from plat or farming, u just cant. (ive seen many other classes getting to high lvls with low~medium budget, like rangers and warriors mostly, some rogues and very few druids)
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#15
Investing in dps is tricky at low levels because cost vs benefit.

Biggest Cost is increased energy usuage, you will consume more energy having a lot of points in damage skills other than attune and cloak of fire. Those points could be used on energy shield, lure, and eboost for sustained damage output.

Benefit of increasing damage from damage skills other than attune and cloak is more potential damage.

Let's remember that even if you reduce the targets resist to 0, you will average 75% of the damage increase with a minimum of 50 and max of 100 because of the damage formula.

What really hurts is there seems to be a 30% evade rate from lvl 1-190. Around 1 out of 3 spells will evade, and it doesn't improve regardless of ice ability,

One of the biggest advantages cloak of fire has is that it doesn't evade, always hitting from auto attacks, not skill attacks though. It also has very low energy cost. I can't stress enouh how important this skill is fire fire mages. It's even worth considering for low lvl ice mages.

If you start leveling in fingals on rats and bats at lvl 38-60, you will get enought skill book drops to sell to cover the energy regen ring, and energy regen bracelet.

Leveling from 60-70 can be a challenge because wisps have higher resist and are spread out.

Once you reach lvl 70, the pirates in fingals provide good income. You should be close to being able to purchase a heroic amulet.

Pirates will take you to lvl 90, the eyes in otherworld are good until lvl 100, then hit the 105 zombies in the sewers. They dont use skill hits and will miss a lot if you have 400 defense. The zombies are a lot easier than kelpies and die faster.

At lvl 70, every mage should make the lvl 70 req boots from winter quest their highest priority as the 100 defense will help a lot.


Overall, mage can be a very challenging class but things ive mentioned should help. Remember to max attune and use 3-4 attune bonus rings. For every 3 points of energy shield, you should have 2 points in eboost.
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#16
I made a new mage on a new server (Epona). I put every skill point into Cloak of Fire until it was 5, I did not use anymore skill points until level 15, where I put 5 more into Cloak. I was able to make 10k within 3-4 hrs running around collecting presents. I was selling them for 50-60 gold each fast. With only skill points in cloak, I had no problem killing things at all. Level 20 now and I was able to get Fire attune for 100 presents and 3213 gold. Fire attune is 10/10 now, working on building fire lure to 5 next, then possibly eshield.

I'm using the embossed Chain armor from the village. When I reach lvl 30, I will start the duskshadow glove quest and continue working on that armor. Overall, I'm finding the leveling process to be very easy with the build I've mentioned. I shouldn't have a problem killing bats or rats when I reach lvl 40. I hope to have firestorm by then. Will probably require 500-600 presents to get enough gold for it.

I highly recommend new mages consider the build I've mentioned. I believe putting points in fire bolt will only drain energy too fast, requiring you to wait for energy between each fight. Waiting for energy means your spending less time getting exp.

How I did skills and stats:
Lvl 2: Cloak 2/5, 5 focus
Lvl 3: Cloak 3/5, 1 vit, 1 dex, 3 focus
Lvl 4: Cloak 4/5, 1 vit, 1 dex, 3 focus
lvl 5: Cloak 5/5. 1 vit, 1 dex, 3 focus
From lvl 6-14, I did not use a single skill point, and continued to add 1 vit, 1 dex, 3 focus per level.
Lvl 15: Cloak 10/10, 1 vit, 1 dex, 3 focus
I was able to get Fire Attune at lvl 18. I put 9/10 in fire attune right away and added another at lvl 19, and then 1 in lure 2/10 at lvl 20 and another in lure at 21 for 3/10. Next, I will add points into eshield and eboost at a 1to1 ratio. so It would look like this:
lvl 22: 2/10 eshield
lvl 23: 2/10 eboost
lvl 24: 3/10 eshield
lvl 25: 3/10 eboost
Lvl 26: 4/10 eshield
lvl 27: 4/10 eboost.
Lvl 28: 5/10 eboost (for myself, 4 eshield and 5 eboost worked well for me. I was able to get the fast respawn 1 star lvl 28 skeletons in catacombs near the leystone without any problem making leveling very easy).
lvl 29-30, I plan on saving the 2 points for Fire attune and will continue to add to fire attune until it goes to 15 at lvl 33. from lvl 34-38, I will put all my skill points into cloak until it is 15.

At lvl 39, I will head towards rats and bats to test out my survival, energy management, and damage. If my survival and energy management is good, I will add a couple points into lure of fire. I'll let everyone know what I do when I get there.

I will need to see how my survival and energy management is at that point. If I'm not having issues, I will put more points into lure of fire until it is 10.

I hope this helps.
Last edited by Bobert on Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#18
So you are putting points in fire attun and cloak even though fire attun doesnt help cloak of fire in any way (only bolt and storm)? That's absolutely bizzare. Not a wise build imho.
It allows him to do damage with bolt and storm without any energy cost (excluding the one fire attune cast). Good for beginners at low levels who don't have access to regens.
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#19
So you are putting points in fire attun and cloak even though fire attun doesnt help cloak of fire in any way (only bolt and storm)? That's absolutely bizzare. Not a wise build imho.
It allows him to do damage with bolt and storm without any energy cost (excluding the one fire attune cast). Good for beginners at low levels who don't have access to regens.
He said he was not using bolt.
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Re: The first thing a Mage should purchase (For Beginners)

#20
So you are putting points in fire attun and cloak even though fire attun doesnt help cloak of fire in any way (only bolt and storm)? That's absolutely bizzare. Not a wise build imho.
It allows him to do damage with bolt and storm without any energy cost (excluding the one fire attune cast). Good for beginners at low levels who don't have access to regens.
He said he was not using bolt.
No, he said not to put points into bolt (or very little), he didn't say not to use it, why else would he put points in attune then?
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