How does him pointing out the immorality of most religions make him an idiot? Think about it, the bible is full of sexism and homophobiaAnd another idiot who thinks hes any smarter since hes atheistThrough logic and useing the human brain, something religion lacks
Obviously:
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#12Well certain theories suggest that humans were created for love (not mine) . From what I have seen, handicap do receive a lot of love and care by most communities around the world. If you've noticed, handicap people are actually usually the most mentally strong people around in their own way.Learn about morals, they are a societal construct that act as an extention of laws, and laws only came in because of logical thinking and rationality. Someone realised an eye for an eye would kill the whole world. And physcopathic people have little morals, therefore god didnt make morals, because if he did why would he make people deal with such a thing?So are you saying that what determines what is right and what is wrong comes from the human brain? What if two people believe two contradictory things? Are they both right? If two people, "through logic and useing the human brain" come up with two different moral philosophies, what decides which person is correct? Are they both correct?Through logic and useing the human brain, something religion lacks
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#13Sexism, maybe. However, I do not think it is the "rational thing to do" (most heard atheist line) to put your thingy up his bum. I understand this will get a lot of hate, but I do have the right to have my opinion just as you do. I accept homosexuals fine, and have one or two friends who are that way, I just dislike when they make a move on you when you aren't homosexual.How does him pointing out the immorality of most religions make him an idiot? Think about it, the bible is full of sexism and homophobiaAnd another idiot who thinks hes any smarter since hes atheistThrough logic and useing the human brain, something religion lacks
Obviously:
This, this is the answer for everything.
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#14Here is the problem. You say morals were made by logic and rationality, but logic and rationality cannot make morals. They can only discover them. Just like Newton did not invent gravity, he discovered it. In the same way, I want to know what made morals? not what discovered them.Learn about morals, they are a societal construct that act as an extention of laws, and laws only came in because of logical thinking and rationality. Someone realised an eye for an eye would kill the whole world. And physcopathic people have little morals, therefore god didnt make morals, because if he did why would he make people deal with such a thing?So are you saying that what determines what is right and what is wrong comes from the human brain? What if two people believe two contradictory things? Are they both right? If two people, "through logic and useing the human brain" come up with two different moral philosophies, what decides which person is correct? Are they both correct?Through logic and useing the human brain, something religion lacks
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#15No one mentioned god creating morals in this postLearn about morals, they are a societal construct that act as an extention of laws, and laws only came in because of logical thinking and rationality. Someone realised an eye for an eye would kill the whole world. And physcopathic people have little morals, therefore god didnt make morals, because if he did why would he make people deal with such a thing?So are you saying that what determines what is right and what is wrong comes from the human brain? What if two people believe two contradictory things? Are they both right? If two people, "through logic and useing the human brain" come up with two different moral philosophies, what decides which person is correct? Are they both correct?Through logic and useing the human brain, something religion lacks
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#16Actually that's the whole point Jacob. Read the first post, last sentence.No one mentioned god creating morals in this postLearn about morals, they are a societal construct that act as an extention of laws, and laws only came in because of logical thinking and rationality. Someone realised an eye for an eye would kill the whole world. And physcopathic people have little morals, therefore god didnt make morals, because if he did why would he make people deal with such a thing?So are you saying that what determines what is right and what is wrong comes from the human brain? What if two people believe two contradictory things? Are they both right? If two people, "through logic and useing the human brain" come up with two different moral philosophies, what decides which person is correct? Are they both correct?
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#17I am not being smart. The person trying to be smart is the person who asked the question. He thinks that atheist find it hard to answer this question, in hope to try and prove religion right, to make him feel safer. The question is not hard at all however. It is simple.
People learnt from the conuqences of their actions and began to distinghish what is right and what is wrong. Through evolution we have came to be what we are mow. If history was replayed it may be different, but this his how it came to be
People learnt from the conuqences of their actions and began to distinghish what is right and what is wrong. Through evolution we have came to be what we are mow. If history was replayed it may be different, but this his how it came to be
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#18Say that there is a little kid with a bomb inside his stomach, along with a million dollars, on an aeroplane. From what I understand, what is right and wrong in your opinion through learning is the more survival friendly choice. So I would push off the little kid to save my life and the money, instead of trying to take the bomb out or die trying. Is this the correct choice? It does meet your requirements.If people didn't know what was right or wrong, then fighting only for your survival wouldn't be right or wrong, hence the choice for personal survival; which either helps or does not help another person or thing.I am not being smart. The person trying to be smart is the person who asked the question. He thinks that atheist find it hard to answer this question, in hope to try and prove religion right, to make him feel safer. The question is not hard at all however. It is simple.
People learnt from the conuqences of their actions and began to distinghish what is right and what is wrong. Through evolution we have came to be what we are mow. If history was replayed it may be different, but this his how it came to be
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#19I think its more so God. Let's take Jamestown for instance. A few months back, the body of a young girl was found. After examination, they found that some people had eaten her. The girl was dead already, it was the year where they had a large amount die due to starvation.
They know she was dead first because, there are tentative chop marks to the forehead, and was ultimately split in the back, they needed food to survive.
This was about 170 years before the revolution, when the colonies were just getting started. This was also a time where communication took a 1-2 weeks to 1-3 months, so not as much morality could be spread then. Not to mention (not sure on this) religion was more commonly accepted. Not to mention the acceptance of kings killing people at will. So these Jamestown colonists, who had faced plenty of hardships, still had the morality. They found it hard to eat the girl.
(If this is torn apart easily, I'm short on time, but wanted to reply. No remarks that I'm stupid or bigoted please!)
(A tad off-topic, but I notice how the Christians on threads are nicer, and God is love, while the atheists fall to more......demeaning comments.)
They know she was dead first because, there are tentative chop marks to the forehead, and was ultimately split in the back, they needed food to survive.
This was about 170 years before the revolution, when the colonies were just getting started. This was also a time where communication took a 1-2 weeks to 1-3 months, so not as much morality could be spread then. Not to mention (not sure on this) religion was more commonly accepted. Not to mention the acceptance of kings killing people at will. So these Jamestown colonists, who had faced plenty of hardships, still had the morality. They found it hard to eat the girl.
(If this is torn apart easily, I'm short on time, but wanted to reply. No remarks that I'm stupid or bigoted please!)
(A tad off-topic, but I notice how the Christians on threads are nicer, and God is love, while the atheists fall to more......demeaning comments.)
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#20+1, dont get me wrong i got a few friends who are athiests and are nice peeps, but the people who believe they are better than others because they are athiests and are extreme, pretty much the ppl who consider people who follow religion unintelligent tend to be a**holes.
(If this is torn apart easily, I'm short on time, but wanted to reply. No remarks that I'm stupid or bigoted please!)
(A tad off-topic, but I notice how the Christians on threads are nicer, and God is love, while the atheists fall to more......demeaning comments.)
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