Celtic Heroes

^ When sacrificing enjoyment and DPS comes in to factor for survivability, then **** survivability.

All of that to prove what??That rangers and rogues arent equal? Class balance is impossible, im surprised warriors havent started comparing their heals to druid heals and cryin about that. CHEEZUS classes will not be balanced stop putting yourself through all this^^^ and just play the game

The point of classes are to have DIFFERENT playstyles. Rangers aren't meant to be to par on rogues for dps. Suck it up, your advantage is to survive and be cheaper. Ours is to damage. So be it.

I feel like those who want rangers to be able to compete with rogue dps just don't believe in actual class roles. Maybe mages need a heal.

The point of classes are to have DIFFERENT playstyles. Rangers aren't meant to be to par on rogues for dps. Suck it up, your advantage is to survive and be cheaper. Ours is to damage. So be it.

Rogues weren't supposed to be top dps class from the start nub

Rogues were always meant to be a dps lower than rangers. They are the trickster class who kill their enemy without losing much hp while rangers are the superior dps class(to rogues) that kill their enemy fast from a distant. This is the class roles in nearly all mmo's, however it is not what happens in ch.

At least the part about the DL sword was right

I feel like those who want rangers to be able to compete with rogue dps just don't believe in actual class roles. Maybe mages need a heal.

I think u dont realize that even if we go by roles, rogues getting the dps role isnt a given.

@Yilley, warrior hitting highest dmg per hit? Thats rangers, warriors arent really the best, they can tank, but im pretty sure that all clans here have casual tanks for end-game bosses, and no clan would give up on lets say 20 dps so they'll become 20 useless tanks.

Rogue doesnt only have very high melee at very high speed, its also the skills. Higher skill dmg than mages (assassinate, sneaky is on par), tons of poison dmg, lots of instant casting skills, quick strike which is a beast skill (doesnt interrupt melee, can get to great dmg, low energy cost, fast cooldown), and has great survivability abilities such as life steal and fast reflexes which both are amazing skills.

Ranger's skills are broken, warrior's arent broken (enough useful ones, but a few useless ones like the rest of classes) but lack of variety on damaging skills. Now, although im completely against nerf and i think that one nerf will lead to another nerf, i think that if by u5 rogues lose their 'crown' due a nerf, maybe then they'll realize its not a given to be the top dps.

Many endgame people do use haste lixs, that's true. Not everyone does though. I believe that, since this IS NOT a pay-2-win game, plat items should be taken out of this equation.

I do believe that the 30% haste lux item(s) should, however, be put in as a side note.

Regardless, atm rogues come out on top as far as autos go. They already come out as skills hands-down. Even mages have a hard, if not impossible, time trying to keep up- even if they hit every time or almost every time.

Rangers skills definetly need fixed 100%. Autos, I will admit I am not as concerned about the autos. It would be nice to have a slight auto increase all the same.

But what rangers really need is our skills FIXED. This includes the distance requirement being abolished on longshot.

Many endgame people do use haste lixs, that's true. Not everyone does though. I believe that, since this IS NOT a pay-2-win game, plat items should be taken out of this equation.

I do believe that the 30% haste lux item(s) should, however, be put in as a side note.

Regardless, atm rogues come out on top as far as autos go. They already come out as skills hands-down. Even mages have a hard, if not impossible, time trying to keep up- even if they hit every time or almost every time.

Rangers skills definetly need fixed 100%. Autos, I will admit I am not as concerned about the autos. It would be nice to have a slight auto increase all the same.

But what rangers really need is our skills FIXED. This includes the distance requirement being abolished on longshot.

Fix longshot? Think of this... LONGshot. the skills description is in the name. It's a completely different skill without that. Imo they should just buff sharpshot. They're essentially the same skills but longshot pins and has distance req