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Re: Death Penalty

#41
Criminals are already in jail, they aren't able to commit murders again.
Terrorists are free and, if the soldier didn't shoot them, they would be able to commit other crimes.
This is a big difference. Sometimes, death is the only solution. But when you kill just to feel better, it isn't good.
Nuclear arsenal won't be used, because every country knows that, if it started a nuclear war, it would be a disaster for the whole world. Not only the enemy.
Police is necessary to protect people, but there is no danger if the criminal is already in jail.
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Re: Death Penalty

#42
If the death penalty is wrong because no human should ever take another human's life, then you would not only have to get rid of executioners, but also disband the army, take away police sidearms, destroy the nuclear arsenal, etc.

Some people are OK with a soldier killing a terrorist to protect his/her country, yet reject the notion that the worst criminals ought to receive the death penalty.


I never said that. Lets not twist words. There is a difference between strapping someone to a chair and pumping him full of chemicals on the word of a judge and self defense. Or standing up for innocent beings not being able to defend themselves.

I myself have guns. In my car, several in my place, always when I'm on two wheels. What you suggested about taking firearms away from everyone is silly.

Re: Death Penalty

#43
If the death penalty is wrong because no human should ever take another human's life, then you would not only have to get rid of executioners, but also disband the army, take away police sidearms, destroy the nuclear arsenal, etc.

Some people are OK with a soldier killing a terrorist to protect his/her country, yet reject the notion that the worst criminals ought to receive the death penalty.


I never said that. Lets not twist words. There is a difference between strapping someone to a chair and pumping him full of chemicals on the word of a judge and self defense. Or standing up for innocent beings not being able to defend themselves.

I myself have guns. In my car, several in my place, always when I'm on two wheels. What you suggested about taking firearms away from everyone is silly.
They get to choose how they die.
•lethal injection (chemicals)
•hung
•firing squad (strapped to a chair and shot)
And I think there r some more

Re: Death Penalty

#46
no man should have the right to dictate whether another should live or die.
It is not in our hands or power to decide the fate of someone. That is something only God has the power to do.
Also^ dont believe the government has the right to decide to end a life. Detain it in order to protect society yes, but not choose who can live or die
One of the basic things in a big part of the world is that humans are free and were all born equal. If your life depends of other people's choice, I'm not sure you are free.
life is sacred. Our life has been given to us by God, and taking our/ someone's life isn't right.
To conclude, I believe ( not saying you must think I al right ! this is a debate ) that death penalty is a threat to humanity, because it hurts the criminal ( who is human and can be hurted ! ), the one who kills him and everyone else. And because death penalty can't be fairly applied as long as humans can't be fully objective.
If the death penalty is wrong because no human should ever take another human's life, then you would not only have to get rid of executioners, but also disband the army, take away police sidearms, destroy the nuclear arsenal, etc.

Some people are OK with a soldier killing a terrorist to protect his/her country, yet reject the notion that the worst criminals ought to receive the death penalty.


I never said that. Lets not twist words. There is a difference between strapping someone to a chair and pumping him full of chemicals on the word of a judge and self defense. Or standing up for innocent beings not being able to defend themselves.

I myself have guns. In my car, several in my place, always when I'm on two wheels. What you suggested about taking firearms away from everyone is silly.
@Rotary

I'm not twisting words, I was referring to others who said something along the lines of "people don't have the right to judge who lives and who dies" (see quote wall above).

In the United States…
A drone pilot makes the decision whether or not to pass the death penalty when he/she gets ready to launch a Hellfire missile at a ground target.
A sniper makes the decision whether or not to pass the death penalty when his/her crosshairs line up over a target.
A police officer makes the decision whether or not to pass the death penalty when he/she aims at a fleeing murder suspect.
A homeowner makes the decision whether or not to pass the death penalty when he/she points a shotgun at a potential robber breaking in.

Judges are not the only ones choosing who lives and who dies. And executioners are not the only ones doing the killing.

In my opinion, it is foolish to rail against the death penalty in the US when we have 300 million civilian firearms and drones executing terrorists overseas, with collateral damage.

Our US army has killed their fair share of innocents (Hiroshima, anyone?). I'd also bet that quite a few terrorists (that have been killed by the US army) would be diagnosed as mentally ill.

Does that mean we should disband the army, because of those civilian casualties? Destroy all nukes? Does it make it wrong to kill a terrorist if he/she is mentally ill?

I answer no to all of those ^

Re: Death Penalty

#48
Ofcourse israel is "nuclear free" we just have a simple textile factory guarded 24/7 by special armed forces
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Re: Death Penalty

#49
I don't think the death penalty should even be a thing even more, what is this? the dark ages? I mean, you are doing THE SAME THING that they did, does that make you better than them? Why drop to their level, I think a life sentence would be a better fit punishment.
actually a life sentence is only 40 years. Lol don't believe me look it up. Alot of people you are probably wondering why they receive consecutive life sentences. It is to make sure they don't see the light of day.
Thats life with parole smart one. Life without parole means you will be in there until you die. Im all for the death penalty which is surprising since I'm catholic. Idc what you did, if its bad enough that someone decides you should die then, screw it you obviously deserve it.
So if I decide that your don't look like me I am going to kill you will that be justified? I mean, (someone) decides you gotta die so it must be fair.
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Re: Death Penalty

#50
Capital punishment or the death penalty is a legal process whereby a person is put to death by the state as a punishment for a crime.
This is a definition. The situation isn't the same as sniper's etc.
I don't say that army has to be disbanded. Sometimes, sadly, violence and death are "needed". But death penalty isn't needed, the criminal won't be able to commit crimes in jail, so why would he kill him ? And how would it help ?
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