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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#11
Hey guys! I've switched to Mighty Crown shield of spirits, I got it like a week ago. I think it's pretty awesome, when my energy shield breaks I only have about 300 health so the shield is really a life saver whilst I try to recast my shield (It gets interuptted too much :lol: )
I'm level 72 so when I get to roughly 77 the shield will be really useful for when I go to the OW :D.
If you want to make your main a mage, i would suggest the shield because the extra damage rogues and warriors use from the bodkin doesn't do much for a mage
Hope this helped!
Also, I'm not sure yet but I'm thinking about going mage pure, I love mages now, of course my main is a warrior but suprisingly I don't play him anymore, all hung up on this mage which is unusual because normally I can't stay away from my warrior. But heck I think I could defeat my warrior in PVP even though he's 88.

Back to topic, I got the shield and I really enjoy using it but the main reason I got the shield instead of the focus was because I can use it on my warrior if I do decide to continue to play him.
I'd go with the bodkin. Shield and Focus are defensive offhands while mage, being a DPS, is offensive and the bodkin adds quite a bit of additional dmg.

Or wait until a new offhand for mages is out and decide then. :)

Also, I don't play in the Otherworld, but I hear that a shield is really useful there.
So also I discovered that with my Bodkin and my (really bad) wand (YULESTAVE) :), I did on average about 23-25 damage and now with the shield I can only manage maybe 11. However, if I do want to maximise my DPS then I switch to my blizzard sled and it hits quite high, 21s and 23s so I guess that makes up for the loss of the bodkin, of course, the Sled doesn't provide regen in any way but oh well :P
Think about it like this; it would take 17 ticks (85 seconds) in a fight to regen as much energy with mighty crown shield of spirits as you loose from the weight of the shield. IMO any mage that uses Mighty crown shield of spirits is gravely mistaken.
BUT (sorry for being so blunt), I don't really care because I now have 2132 energy. I probably will restat when I get to 77 as I'll need more health when I get to OW but if I continue adding to my health 5 stats each time that'll be 25 more stat points so my vitality will be 60 points. I'll try out in the OW with that but again, I'll need to restat but I still plan to have a whole lot of points in focus.

Sorry for the long post :D
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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#12
Think about it like this; it would take 17 ticks (85 seconds) in a fight to regen as much energy with mighty crown shield of spirits as you loose from the weight of the shield. IMO any mage that uses Mighty crown shield of spirits is gravely mistaken.
I disagree, think of it this way. Would you spend 180 energy on a protective stance skill that gives you 60 extra armor and never expires? I would especially in OW. Energy = one more spell. Armor lasts for every hit. Go for the shield. I have been using a spirit shield with the +15 hp and just upgraded to a Crown +10 +10. I had to go a day without any shield while I raised the last bit of cash. Not having the extra armor was rough.
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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#14
I'm trying my Spirits shield again, instead of my Brodkin. I cast so darn much, I rarely ever wand attack, so the extra armor points and Health will help some.

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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#15
Focus looks better on mages. I don't see any lvl 80 mage with an orb. Shields are for warriors, doesn't really work with mages. Bodkins are fine, if u want more DPS, but I don't normally hit Auto Attack with my wand, so i don't like the bodkin.
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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#16
Focus looks better on mages. I don't see any lvl 80 mage with an orb. Shields are for warriors, doesn't really work with mages. Bodkins are fine, if u want more DPS, but I don't normally hit Auto Attack with my wand, so i don't like the bodkin.
I want something that adds Focus and regenerates my Health and Energy, adds Health and Energy too wouldn't hurt any. Am I asking for the world?

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Re: Bodkin or Shield

#17
Each unit of weight decreases you energy by 8.7. So for a shield that has 20 weight, your energy would go down by 174. Bodkin reduces your energy by 60.9 not including the 50 it looses over the focus.

If you want energy, the best way to go is the focus. (plus you get bonus resists). Many e-shield builds will not even opt for the rejuvenation since they don't care about health, they will get energization and save 75k.

If you want defense and health, the best way to go is Mighty shield of crowns, which has no weight,huge health, and huge physical resists (defense).

If you want to stab guys and dont mind loosing 110.9 energy and 50 health and 50 all res (from focus) then get bodkin.
Last edited by mdimarco on Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Bodkin or Shield

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Focus looks better on mages. I don't see any lvl 80 mage with an orb. Shields are for warriors, doesn't really work with mages. Bodkins are fine, if u want more DPS, but I don't normally hit Auto Attack with my wand, so i don't like the bodkin.
I want something that adds Focus and regenerates my Health and Energy, adds Health and Energy too wouldn't hurt any. Am I asking for the world?

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Re: Bodkin or Shield

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Think about it like this; it would take 17 ticks (85 seconds) in a fight to regen as much energy with mighty crown shield of spirits as you loose from the weight of the shield. IMO any mage that uses Mighty crown shield of spirits is gravely mistaken.
I disagree, think of it this way. Would you spend 180 energy on a protective stance skill that gives you 60 extra armor and never expires? I would especially in OW. Energy = one more spell. Armor lasts for every hit. Go for the shield. I have been using a spirit shield with the +15 hp and just upgraded to a Crown +10 +10. I had to go a day without any shield while I raised the last bit of cash. Not having the extra armor was rough.

Ok, but then consider that Mighty shield of crowns has zero weight so you can keep the 180 energy, keep the 60 armor and get 150 health and 15 health regen.

Thats where I was going with that. The 10 energy regen per tick just doesn't make up for the loss of 180 energy imo when you have this other shield option.
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