Celtic Heroes

So, I hate to ask you this, but if i had a build with incen and attune, could you give me a brief idea of the skill points for storm and bolt too? Would it be more affective at my level?

So, I hate to ask you this, but if i had a build with incen and attune, could you give me a brief idea of the skill points for storm and bolt too? Would it be more affective at my level?

i would tell u to change build
attune improves the dmg of FIRESTORM and FIREBOLT, not inc
dont use inc for lvling, and firebolt is the first skill u should max

^ Incinerate is actually good for levelling. But I can't expect you to have experienced this since your mage is level 73...

When you get multiple mobs, or 3*/4* mobs, incinerate is actually really helpful and effective.

^ Incinerate is actually good for levelling. But I can't expect you to have experienced this since your mage is level 73...

When you get multiple mobs, or 3*/4* mobs, incinerate is actually really helpful and effective.

im not saying use shards from my own experience, come to belenus, see whos Theologin, most things i learned on mages are from him, why do i prefer to listen mostly to this guy? he has 3 mages, 2 of them are 184, one ice (with firebolt and firestorm as extras) and main, Theologin, is fire (with ice shards and ice blast as extras)

when a mage has enough experience on both elemental mages, and he has 3 mages that hes using, and hes been fire since pre update, i would say prob to listen to him

the main reason to add ice shards, is to have another element with u, while being able to get ice shards to hit hard with lvl 1 lure, and still keep ur full fire build skills, there u go with pure fire build and extra element skill with u, mostly good for ppl from those lvl (even 60) who lvl and go over each mob quickly and it changes, trying it from a low lvl will gain u more experience with it along time, im not saying inc is crap, again, its better for the long runs, but before really wyrms or trolls, those kills arent that long runs (except 4*, and u cant build according to one kind of mob), neither depending on multiple mobs attacking u, as we know that he might unable to survive
so what i offer him is a nuking dmg to his lvl, it is good enough to destroy all mobs around u, if u can keep up, why not?
oh and why i told him to change build on that comment was since he wanted to make a build with attune and inc and then see if he can get firebolt+firestorm, u tell me if its good for him

come to belenus, see whos Theologin, most things i learned on mages are from him, why do i prefer to listen mostly to this guy? he has 3 mages, 2 of them are 184, one ice (with firebolt and firestorm as extras) and main, Theologin, is fire (with ice shards and ice blast as extras)

when a mage has enough experience on both elemental mages, and he has 3 mages that hes using, and hes been fire since pre update, i would say prob to listen to him

I don't care who this guy is. It wouldn't make a difference if he had 10 level 190 mages. You're giving advice for a level 180+ mage to a level 90+ mage. The OP doesn't have the resources your 'friend' has. People don't keep the same build for their whole life as a mage. So once again, play your mage before giving advice that doesn't work for all people. If your friend came himself and gave advice, I would be like sweet, proper advice. Because he would switch his advice to someone who is level 90+ and give a different answer.

All you do is spew the same nonsense in every thread, because some high level friend has told you their build. But I wouldn't expect you to know mages as a level 73, so I guess it isn't your fault.

come to belenus, see whos Theologin, most things i learned on mages are from him, why do i prefer to listen mostly to this guy? he has 3 mages, 2 of them are 184, one ice (with firebolt and firestorm as extras) and main, Theologin, is fire (with ice shards and ice blast as extras)

when a mage has enough experience on both elemental mages, and he has 3 mages that hes using, and hes been fire since pre update, i would say prob to listen to him

I don't care who this guy is. It wouldn't make a difference if he had 10 level 190 mages. You're giving advice for a level 180+ mage to a level 90+ mage. The OP doesn't have the resources your 'friend' has. People don't keep the same build for their whole life as a mage. So once again, play your mage before giving advice that doesn't work for all people. If your friend came himself and gave advice, I would be like sweet, proper advice. Because he would switch his advice to someone who is level 90+ and give a different answer.

All you do is spew the same nonsense in every thread, because some high level friend has told you their build. But I wouldn't expect you to know mages as a level 73, so I guess it isn't your fault.

aww no need to be upset, im not the only one who suggested ice shards ya know
the point is, that if u wanna go with ice shards, is only if ur being full dps, full dps builds are known as costly, and im giving pretty much same advices as u do instead that ice shards is mostly suited to lower lvls while inc would work the best on high lvls

did u try using lvl 90 mage with inc? how long do u think the mobs survive? it wont be that good even on 4* mobs at lvl 120, they die way faster than ur 4* mobs, which there, i would guess that inc is very useful

saying "ur only lvl 73 and idc whos ur friend' isnt that helpful, since i can show u so many low lvls on several classes that are better with it than way higher lvls, deathreaver for example, seems to me like a great warrior while being 116, and why is that? hes prob getting advices and info from those around him, or he tested things by himself

my advices are pretty simple as everyone's, if full dps? ice shards imo (which theres no right and wrong opinion, doesnt matter what lvl u r) is the best skill to add, mostly for low lvls which u prob havent tested on those lvls while i did, i dont give advices to such high lvls as 180, only opinions
e shield for survival, if having hard time, and sacrifice/e boost for energy regen, whatever u prefer, could use both

and my skills setup are mostly the same like everyone do, would u suggest inc and fire attune without firebolt and firestorm as a build? i dont think so, and thats the comment u quoted, so if u wanna argue, make it more clear, dont go around argue if inc or ice shards is better, u would use inc in ur opinion, but i find it less effective for LOW LVLS as being LOW LVL mage while testing it (lvl 73 mage with a main could afford decent amount of rebirths and alts)

being experienced doesnt mean being high lvl and sticking with the same idea, ive seen so many 'experienced' high lvls, while having my 'not experienced' alts, they barely know how to put 2 skills together, and i can advice them better, am i an experienced warrior for being high lvl? do u know how many retarted higher lvls than me ive seen? im on forums, i read the guides, i take advices, im testing builds, skills, stats, im asking more experienced ppl on it, i have ppl that have tried same build at high and low lvl, and i can see the difference in the results for each

im not coming to argue with u, i'll make it clear, this is ONLY my opinion, not facts, since theres no best build, no best stats, no right and wrong opinions, he asked for help, every poster on this thread tried to help, he can choose what to do, who said he'll go with inc or iceshards? if he cant afford being fully regened, wouldnt e.boost/sacrifice be the right skills for him? or maybe u disagree with me on that as well?

if u wanna argue, or tell me how as a lvl 73 mage i cannot advice, do it on PM's or visit me in-game, i love to see forums mates in-game, mostly since not many belenus ppl are here around, dont argue by saying random crap hoping it'll make it better, as such experienced mage, if he cannot afford full dps, u should have suggested energy regen skill, not inc, and u should know how inc works better on the long runs which he doesnt have

dont give him advices that would work for lvl 185 mages


EDIT : dont keep the argue here, i really hate to see random ppl get involved in arguements (could be ur friends, almost no belenus players on forums), PM me if u wanna tell me something about that comment, feel free to quote it there

tl;dr

I just find it annoying that you'll always quote your friend as evidence that what you say is right. Sure, your advice might work, but I'd prefer if amateur mages accessed primary data, instead of chewed up secondary data from people like yourself. No need for PMs, I'm done.

tl;dr

I just find it annoying that you'll always quote your friend as evidence that what you say is right. Sure, your advice might work, but I'd prefer if amateur mages accessed primary data, instead of chewed up secondary data from people like yourself. No need for PMs, I'm done.

i dont quote him, only the ice shards suggestion
at first i use inc if tbh, but i didnt like it mostly since every mob dies too fast, with either ice or fire builds, so i asked for an idea for a better skill, he suggested ice shards, and if i want a mage advice i would come to him even if i were 185, like high lvls rogues come to Kiyarah

just like u say, better ask the experienced ppl, when some are pure fire and some are pure ice and they'll suggest their build, he has ice and fire + one new mage (lvl 100 atm) that can help u on the low lvls advices, idk u, idk how u build or dont, neither do most of ppl here, so the thread is meant to all of those who wanna try and help

chewed up, im not, dont say random stuff with no base at least, taking ideas and testing them is a common logic, its like saying that everything i do, or any tip ppl take from me as warriors and suggest, is chewed up, and that will make everything chewed up if we cant suggest things someone suggested us and we tried to know if it actually works
the more ppl try it, the more improvements it'll get, from different experiences, diff lvls, gears, stats, and etc.

Arguement is done i guess, have a good day.

im not coming to argue with u, i'll make it clear, this is ONLY my opinion, not facts, since theres no best build, best stats...

Sorry, there is

chop
193 ice mage