Celtic Heroes

Iman, if it's really pissing you off, maybe take a step back. We're a debating about a make believe character in a mobile fantasy game.

Yakat, I have a ranger that has gotten the kill over some of our rogues on a few dl bosses and the 150 event. Any class can get the kill over another class depending on a number of factors. I've seen our warriors get the kills and other times mages get the kill and there has been twice that my druid has gotten the kill.

To me it seems like there is too much pigeon holing off the role of rangers and rogues. If you look at end game armor, rogues are given bonuses to enemy weakening support and rangers group and individual damage support. Both are pretty equal roles, just on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

And rangers are able to stay out of AoE and heal(if we disregard the support skills by calling them equal). Don't you think that justifies less dps?

No. Yesterday while killing snorri and staying out of his aoe, I was attacked by a troll and one of the guards and died. If my dps would have been better, I could have finished one off, healed and killed the other.

Meanwhile the druids used group heal and kept the rogues alive.

I think if you're going to criticize a class, go play it to level 140 at least. I'm not sure why anyone would be against rangers getting better skills.

Iman, if it's really pissing you off, maybe take a step back. We're a debating about a make believe character in a mobile fantasy game.

Yakat, I have a ranger that has gotten the kill over some of our rogues on a few dl bosses and the 150 event. Any class can get the kill over another class depending on a number of factors. I've seen our warriors get the kills and other times mages get the kill and there has been twice that my druid has gotten the kill.

To me it seems like there is too much pigeon holing off the role of rangers and rogues. If you look at end game armor, rogues are given bonuses to enemy weakening support and rangers group and individual damage support. Both are pretty equal roles, just on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

And rangers are able to stay out of AoE and heal(if we disregard the support skills by calling them equal). Don't you think that justifies less dps?

No. Yesterday while killing snorri and staying out of his aoe, I was attacked by a troll and one of the guards and died. If my dps would have been better, I could have finished one off, healed and killed the other.

Meanwhile the druids used group heal and kept the rogues alive.

I think if you're going to criticize a class, go play it to level 140 at least. I'm not sure why anyone would be against rangers getting better skills.

If snorri is tanked a ranger can stand in a spot nowhere near the trolls. Its up to the tank to account for things like adds. I suggest getting a better one. On mordris rangers can stay out of AoE. On hrung rangers can avoid AoE. On necro rangers can avoid AoE. I haven't been on to play the new update but from what I've heard the obelisk has a killer AoE and it is suggested to use ranged dps especially. On every DL boss rangers can avoid AoE. On Aggy rangers avoid AoE. I don't know about the 190 weapon boss so I won't comment on whether rangers are safe from that devastating AoE.

You cant avoid aoe any class on event obelisks as far as i know

Unless your geez up lol, ninja

I think it'd be easier for a ranger to run out of AoE if its too large of a radius don't you agree? I still haven't been on since engine update so I'm just guessing.

Iman, if it's really pissing you off, maybe take a step back. We're a debating about a make believe character in a mobile fantasy game.

Yakat, I have a ranger that has gotten the kill over some of our rogues on a few dl bosses and the 150 event. Any class can get the kill over another class depending on a number of factors. I've seen our warriors get the kills and other times mages get the kill and there has been twice that my druid has gotten the kill.

To me it seems like there is too much pigeon holing off the role of rangers and rogues. If you look at end game armor, rogues are given bonuses to enemy weakening support and rangers group and individual damage support. Both are pretty equal roles, just on the opposite ends of the spectrum.

And rangers are able to stay out of AoE and heal(if we disregard the support skills by calling them equal). Don't you think that justifies less dps?

If otm actually let us stay out of aoe @ max bow range, i would be less critical. But when snorri / big trolls furious sweep me from 100 yards away, that kind of ruins the whole rangers get out of AOE BS.

What kind of length is on snorris coub exactly? 39 1/2 foot pole like in the Grinch Stole Xmas song?

What dales said. On event, I can't stay in shot range and stay out of aoe.

We did snorri again and wasn't able to stay out if his wild swing. Essentially I would have to shoot, run off, shoot, run off.

As an aside, I don't know why kiting is disliked. At 165, I reskilled for bolas for the first time since lvl 110. We went to 170 boss. Our tank tanked the adds while 3 rangers kited the boss and rogues and mages killed it. It was super fast and the use of idols and pots were very minimal.

Lol the furious sweep AoE can reach from mordy pit to carrow leystone, that thing is insane. Anyway, just like a tank can aid rangers avoiding AoEs, druids and tanks (and just like u said, rangers) can help rogues survive AoEs. Do rogues actually use their skills to increase others' dps? If anything, ranger doesnt only help rogues surviving, they also give them dmg, while I dont see rogues giving poison wep to others, nor they heal others, nor they really help others (u usually need specifically a support rogue to give u smoke bomb and expose weaknesses, and while expose is great, smoke bomb lowers defence which is like indirectly increasing attack which both melee classes can do on their own), this 'dps kings' idiotic pointless title makes many rogues think these game is Celtic Rogues & Their B*tches, saying their dps is a role and no one should ever come close to these 'kings'.


Its not that rangers are supposed to sacrifice their dmg for range, its that they deserve to be equal to rogues while rangers will have range and rogues will have stealth, so yes, rogues who have the sneaky role (and not the dps role) arent even capable of using their actual role.

I think it'd be easier for a ranger to run out of AoE if its too large of a radius don't you agree? I still haven't been on since engine update so I'm just guessing.

Yak just shhh, go level, go camp...stop pretending you know about rangers, you barely know your own class. As a matter of fact please stay off rangers page. Go bug the druids, mages rogues and warriors.

I think it'd be easier for a ranger to run out of AoE if its too large of a radius don't you agree? I still haven't been on since engine update so I'm just guessing.

Yak just shhh, go level, go camp...stop pretending you know about rangers, you barely know your own class. As a matter of fact please stay off rangers page. Go bug the druids, mages rogues and warriors.

I'm good. Forums are as close as I can get to the game. Can't even login because OTM released this "upgrade".