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Re: Still New with my Mage

#21
STR has two purposes in the game and neither has to do with adding damage. 1. It allows you to use items with a str requirement (this does effect damage but it is the weapon not the STR)2. It allows you to carry heavier stuff for less of an energy loss however it takes about 4 pts of str to get the same energy as 1 pt of Focus so if you want energy buy focus.
str does add damage but its added by a percent not a fixed amount of extra damage done
World: Gwydion
Clan: Solitaire
Octavian: lvl 136 warrior
Epoch: lvl 92 Mage

Re: Still New with my Mage

#22
My Stats are such because of my gear. I have a heroic ammy and a Winter King wand (which requires Str):
Str: 50
Dex: 5
Foc: 50
Vit: 345
Health: 2231, Energy: 305
Skills:
Bandage, Fire Bolt, Cloak, Ice Lure, Fire Lure, and Shards all at 15. Energy Shield: 2 (atm, raising it now).
I’m a Vitality heavy Mage. I’ve found that 50 Focus is just right since I have my ammy. The 50 Str is kind of a waste since wands suck so much, but oh well. I usually keep Cloak up, launch Fire Lure, try to cast Ice Shards next, and Fire Bolt and Shard the mob to death.
I cannot wait for a few levels so I can try to tank more with the energy shield, in groups while hunting. I usually try to keep Cloak up on the Tank during hunts, and keep fire lure up on the Boss. I spam Bolt and Shards as much as I can. I help the Tank do more damage with my Cloak up, and this sometimes helps prevent an opposing Clan to KS us.
Tog
Togarth Lvl 150 Mage World Sulis General of Clan Retribution 3rd Place in Marshall's Crystal Armor Event (ChuckNorris)

Re: Still New with my Mage

#23
My Stats are such because of my gear. I have a heroic ammy and a Winter King wand (which requires Str):
Str: 50
Dex: 5
Foc: 50
Vit: 345
Health: 2231, Energy: 305
Skills:
Bandage, Fire Bolt, Cloak, Ice Lure, Fire Lure, and Shards all at 15. Energy Shield: 2 (atm, raising it now).
I’m a Vitality heavy Mage. I’ve found that 50 Focus is just right since I have my ammy. The 50 Str is kind of a waste since wands suck so much, but oh well. I usually keep Cloak up, launch Fire Lure, try to cast Ice Shards next, and Fire Bolt and Shard the mob to death.
I cannot wait for a few levels so I can try to tank more with the energy shield, in groups while hunting. I usually try to keep Cloak up on the Tank during hunts, and keep fire lure up on the Boss. I spam Bolt and Shards as much as I can. I help the Tank do more damage with my Cloak up, and this sometimes helps prevent an opposing Clan to KS us.
Tog
You have a great build but i recomend swapping abot 1k of your health into energy if you plan to tank a little. And take that 50 str and add it to dex or energy. and i recomend never auto attacking ive noticed an auto attack interupts yourself and when in the heat of tanking you cant afford interuptions..
Name:HoorDee/DrPeppers
Class:(Balor) Warrior(Rosmerta)Druid
Level:170/140

Re: Still New with my Mage

#24
My Stats are such because of my gear. I have a heroic ammy and a Winter King wand (which requires Str):
Str: 50
Dex: 5
Foc: 50
Vit: 345
Health: 2231, Energy: 305
Skills:
Bandage, Fire Bolt, Cloak, Ice Lure, Fire Lure, and Shards all at 15. Energy Shield: 2 (atm, raising it now).
I’m a Vitality heavy Mage. I’ve found that 50 Focus is just right since I have my ammy. The 50 Str is kind of a waste since wands suck so much, but oh well. I usually keep Cloak up, launch Fire Lure, try to cast Ice Shards next, and Fire Bolt and Shard the mob to death.
I cannot wait for a few levels so I can try to tank more with the energy shield, in groups while hunting. I usually try to keep Cloak up on the Tank during hunts, and keep fire lure up on the Boss. I spam Bolt and Shards as much as I can. I help the Tank do more damage with my Cloak up, and this sometimes helps prevent an opposing Clan to KS us.
Tog
Uhhh.... 10/10 energy shield makes energy exactly like health. Unfortunately, you get more hp per vit than energy per focus. Besides, casting spells costs energy. Just stick to vit unless you plan to be dps (after update, focus boosts spells).
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

Re: Still New with my Mage

#25
My Stats are such because of my gear. I have a heroic ammy and a Winter King wand (which requires Str):
Str: 50
Dex: 5
Foc: 50
Vit: 345
Health: 2231, Energy: 305
Skills:
Bandage, Fire Bolt, Cloak, Ice Lure, Fire Lure, and Shards all at 15. Energy Shield: 2 (atm, raising it now).
I’m a Vitality heavy Mage. I’ve found that 50 Focus is just right since I have my ammy. The 50 Str is kind of a waste since wands suck so much, but oh well. I usually keep Cloak up, launch Fire Lure, try to cast Ice Shards next, and Fire Bolt and Shard the mob to death.
I cannot wait for a few levels so I can try to tank more with the energy shield, in groups while hunting. I usually try to keep Cloak up on the Tank during hunts, and keep fire lure up on the Boss. I spam Bolt and Shards as much as I can. I help the Tank do more damage with my Cloak up, and this sometimes helps prevent an opposing Clan to KS us.
Tog
You have a great build but I recommend swapping abot 1k of your health into energy if you plan to tank a little. And take that 50 str and add it to dex or energy. and i recommend never auto attacking ive noticed an auto attack interupts yourself and when in the heat of tanking you cant afford interuptions..
Thanks, I'm pretty happy with my current build. But, I think I will go back to using an ancient wand till I get warden, that 45 pts of Str could be used in other areas like Foc more I'm sure. I think I'll also lower Lure of Ice (since I mostly only use in groups) and increse the Energy shield.

So a question for my fellow mage Pro's. How much focus would I require If I have a Heroic ammy, and a total of 305 energy ATM from my 50 focus and rest from decent upgraded warden armor (save shirt)? I would like to use that energy shield to tank lesser red bosses some times when higher lvl tanks seem to be absent. Would anyone recommend a bit of energy well too?
The advice on not auto attacking in groups is very valuable. I hadn’t thought about it much. When our leaders yell “auto attack” I used to join right in.
Tog
Togarth Lvl 150 Mage World Sulis General of Clan Retribution 3rd Place in Marshall's Crystal Armor Event (ChuckNorris)

Re: Still New with my Mage

#26
str does add damage but its added by a percent not a fixed amount of extra damage done
Can you elaborate on this please. I have a naked str of 20 and damage of 7 I have spoken with warriors with STR 100 naked damage of 7 and STR 220 naked damage of 9. You appear to be suggesting that STR adds an additional percent of damage given what you are using. Do you have any data suggesting that as you add STR your damage with your weapon goes up more than your naked damage?

Still does not effect mages cause our weapons stink.
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Re: Still New with my Mage

#27
My Stats are such because of my gear. I have a heroic ammy and a Winter King wand (which requires Str):
Str: 50
Dex: 5
Foc: 50
Vit: 345
Health: 2231, Energy: 305
Skills:
Bandage, Fire Bolt, Cloak, Ice Lure, Fire Lure, and Shards all at 15. Energy Shield: 2 (atm, raising it now).
I’m a Vitality heavy Mage. I’ve found that 50 Focus is just right since I have my ammy. The 50 Str is kind of a waste since wands suck so much, but oh well. I usually keep Cloak up, launch Fire Lure, try to cast Ice Shards next, and Fire Bolt and Shard the mob to death.
I cannot wait for a few levels so I can try to tank more with the energy shield, in groups while hunting. I usually try to keep Cloak up on the Tank during hunts, and keep fire lure up on the Boss. I spam Bolt and Shards as much as I can. I help the Tank do more damage with my Cloak up, and this sometimes helps prevent an opposing Clan to KS us.
Tog
You have a great build but I recommend swapping abot 1k of your health into energy if you plan to tank a little. And take that 50 str and add it to dex or energy. and i recommend never auto attacking ive noticed an auto attack interupts yourself and when in the heat of tanking you cant afford interuptions..
Thanks, I'm pretty happy with my current build. But, I think I will go back to using an ancient wand till I get warden, that 45 pts of Str could be used in other areas like Foc more I'm sure. I think I'll also lower Lure of Ice (since I mostly only use in groups) and increse the Energy shield.

So a question for my fellow mage Pro's. How much focus would I require If I have a Heroic ammy, and a total of 305 energy ATM from my 50 focus and rest from decent upgraded warden armor (save shirt)? I would like to use that energy shield to tank lesser red bosses some times when higher lvl tanks seem to be absent. Would anyone recommend a bit of energy well too?
The advice on not auto attacking in groups is very valuable. I hadn’t thought about it much. When our leaders yell “auto attack” I used to join right in.
Tog
Eshield is like health when it's 10/10
Unless you have a lot of energy bonus items and don't cast at all, you can tank with Eshield efficiently. But that's not possible unless you cast and keep aggro. Cloak won't do it all. At the moment you get more hp per vit than energy per focus.

Regardless, I have 90 focus as of right now and I'm able to tank when I set up properly, using Eshield for strategic uses.
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

Re: Still New with my Mage

#28
str does add damage but its added by a percent not a fixed amount of extra damage done
Can you elaborate on this please. I have a naked str of 20 and damage of 7 I have spoken with warriors with STR 100 naked damage of 7 and STR 220 naked damage of 9. You appear to be suggesting that STR adds an additional percent of damage given what you are using. Do you have any data suggesting that as you add STR your damage with your weapon goes up more than your naked damage?

Still does not effect mages cause our weapons stink.
It's by a percent of the damage of the weapon your using so since you do 7 damage with your fists it takes more str to bring that damage up and it wouldn't effect your weapons damage anyway since most Mage weapons use elemental damage which is not effected by str
World: Gwydion
Clan: Solitaire
Octavian: lvl 136 warrior
Epoch: lvl 92 Mage

Re: Still New with my Mage

#29
Wow. For the first time I can see the power of several mage spells working in unison. I maxed energy shield. I set energy well at 11 (raising it). I've discovered I can tank all but the big actual bosses, using about 1/2 that of our best equipted Tank Warriors now.

I have a heroic ammy and now have the spirit shield. So I cloak, energy well, and start the boss battle with lure of fire. When I get down to about half my 2,300 hp, I hit energy shield (seems like it cannot be interupted). Then, after getting ponded on more and my energy goes to basicly zero, I drink a restoration pot. Full health full energy again. I fire bolt and ice shards as I can.

I even now have a clan mage just slightly lower lvl than me giving me energy boost and cloak and fire luring the boss. Works all too well. Very few pots used!!

See if yall can try something like that out.

Tog
Togarth Lvl 150 Mage World Sulis General of Clan Retribution 3rd Place in Marshall's Crystal Armor Event (ChuckNorris)

Re: Still New with my Mage

#30
Wow. For the first time I can see the power of several mage spells working in unison. I maxed energy shield. I set energy well at 11 (raising it). I've discovered I can tank all but the big actual bosses, using about 1/2 that of our best equipted Tank Warriors now.

I have a heroic ammy and now have the spirit shield. So I cloak, energy well, and start the boss battle with lure of fire. When I get down to about half my 2,300 hp, I hit energy shield (seems like it cannot be interupted). Then, after getting ponded on more and my energy goes to basicly zero, I drink a restoration pot. Full health full energy again. I fire bolt and ice shards as I can.

I even now have a clan mage just slightly lower lvl than me giving me energy boost and cloak and fire luring the boss. Works all too well. Very few pots used!!

See if yall can try something like that out.

Tog
Glad to see another Mage, ready and knowledgable of tanking! Cloak helps keep aggro, eh? ;)
SirBlaze333 - 220+ Warrior
(Returning Player)

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