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Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#31
I think we should just make ranger superior to all classes.
No even better. We'll take out every class except ranger. We'll give them tons of armour, dmg, and healing, maybe even give them some magic abilities.

In al seriousness, rangers are meant to be the way they are now (they need a skill buff thats apparent). But why the hell would i make a rogue, a pure dps class, if i can just make a ranger who can lvl easier, boss easier, have more dps, can heal, can bolas.....then what would b the point of rogues if rangers do the exact same dmg? Im gonna save up some gold to make a ranger just in case lol.
Lololololol.

Mid-class armor. Druids Shield of Bark gives them second most armor.

Jack of all trades? If that was actually useful there wouldn't be other classes. Support skills are poo.
Light Heal: Druids have 3 skills which can directly heal druids win, no need for rangers there.

Sharpen Weapons: Ok the average 50/50 sharp weps is like 120 damage? That's a 960 damage add on in an 8 man group, so in actuality its 480 added damage and no more.

Then there's poison weapon. I took Biteys website Skill calculator here: http://celticheroes.blogspot.com/2014/0 ... lator.html and entered Levvys stats, link here from a recent post: http://celtic-heroes.com/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=58145 I assumed his cunning and dagger abilities were maxed out.

The poison weapon output was 163 poison damage. That'sa full 163 damage unless you are facing the odd mob with posion resist. You can cast it on other people and if you cast it on 8 others it would add up to 1304 direct poison damage. Lol. And we aren't even inputting in the adds he could have and the add he obviously has of +5 from his dl gear to poison wep.

Someone mentioned that they can replace warriors as tanks. Warriors and Rogues are never missing, if you want to lose lots of dps that ranger already don't have and put them into vit be my guest. All classes except for mages due to their lack of armor can tank with this logic.

And then of course rogues beat rangers when it comes to dps.
rangers:0 All other classes: 1( u forgot the zeroes after one)

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#32
If otm makes wants rangers to have all these skills to slow down an enemy such as their movement and attack please at least make our auto attack dmg higher.... So we will have decent dps while using those skill points for those types of skills.. I mean c'mon sharpshot haha longshot is the only good skill they added to rangers and even then it still has problems. So if we would use rapid shot our auto dmg would do at least decent dps.

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#34
Ive lvled with many rangers that lvl faster than i do or the same (im a rogue) Not many mid-high lvl rangers i know of lvl slow
How many are alts? Do you think if you used lix all the time at the same time rangers would still be higher than you? Its just a matter of how much time they spend grinding compared to you.
Rogue 166 - Ghostbro
Ranger 126 - Acebow
Warrior 85 - Ghostwar

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Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#35
Someone said across from some post that DL is the same armor wise. If you mean the "armor" or just the "DL" itself then it is not the same. DL ranger buffs more hp and DL rogue buffs more energy than ranger.

So if a ranger and a rogue had the exact same items and level and they went full vit the ranger would win.


If rangers have expired their use how about we get rid of the ranger class all together and just give other classes their skills but in another "look" instead? Bolas goes to a class but it looks and is called differently but to match the class and make sense. If we did that then whats the point of rangers then?

Warriors get light heal
Rogues get bolas
Druids get entangle

And so on. Would we miss rangers? Probably not.
Ashley A - Mabon - Novalis - 222 - Mage
Azona - Mabon - Novalis - 209 - Druid
0x15 - Mabon - Novalis - 216 - Rogue

Allymia - Epona - 220 - Rogue
Fire Mage - Epona - 220 - Mage

Aethinry Donn - Belenus - 221 - Warrior
Dakara - Belenus - 200 - Mage

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#37
Chelsea i stated that both ranger and rogue have the same armour values, but both have very contrasting skills, if rogues were eliminated from the game, they would be missed, rangers... Not so much.
Rangers would be missed a lot. People will complain about no easy pvp xp

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#38
Chelsea i stated that both ranger and rogue have the same armour values, but both have very contrasting skills, if rogues were eliminated from the game, they would be missed, rangers... Not so much.
Rangers would be missed a lot. People will complain about no easy pvp xp
Rofl
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Ranger skills still broken...

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#39
Chelsea i stated that both ranger and rogue have the same armour values, but both have very contrasting skills, if rogues were eliminated from the game, they would be missed, rangers... Not so much.

Okay, seemed differently to me.

I did kill a level 165 with my pvp build (for other person)
Ashley A - Mabon - Novalis - 222 - Mage
Azona - Mabon - Novalis - 209 - Druid
0x15 - Mabon - Novalis - 216 - Rogue

Allymia - Epona - 220 - Rogue
Fire Mage - Epona - 220 - Mage

Aethinry Donn - Belenus - 221 - Warrior
Dakara - Belenus - 200 - Mage

Re: Ranger Vs Rogue!

#40
I haven't read all the posts in this topic, but this most recent page disturbs me.

As a 194 ranger main, I have always considered the ranger the perfect mix of every other class.

Granted, ranger can not heal as much as druids, or deal quite as much damage as rouges, or take damage as well as warriors, or even support as well as mages, BUT:
We can do all of it to a degree just below every other class.

We can heal, We can dps, we can sort of take damage (we can take damage better than warriors with bolas- damage taken would be 0), AND we can support.

Rangers are the perfect mix of every class.

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