Celtic Heroes

First off can you explain "small majority" because it sounds very paradoxal lol

There definitely needs to be a distinction between "rare" and "common" fashion, otherwise the fun is taken out for a lot of people.
Especially when said people were already collecting what was said to be rare for years, and suddenly it's being brought back, as in it's not as unique to have anymore?? Not fair at all and a big mistake from OTM, regardless of it "making the economy better" or whatever desperate argument you'll try to form.

Do you really think that those chests make it any better for "the poor"? The only people who like the idea of them are those who spend hundreds of euros on chests and get rich from selling them overpriced, so in the end it still goes to "the rich" anyway, it just makes the fashion way less rare which is just horrible.
Revival chests (especially being released on iOS) are the lazy way out of making quality fashion for people to truly enjoy and spend money for, didn't think OTM could stoop this low. When was the last time we got content that made people truly excited, and got people to join, or even stay? You can log in as many times as you want in years and still find the same people, often those who have nothing better to do at their boring job other than to play Celtic.


Go grinding instead of whining, and you will be able to afford any fashion you'd like...

This whole post... lol

I see lots of people saying they wish to complete sets and want the chests to return... meaning they don't care if it gets devalued or if it's not unique, they just simply want to complete their sets. As for the economy argument... it's not even mine, it's what people like you brought up lol. I agree that it's a desperate argument that they brought up.

I was online when the chests were out and I can say that prices on everything were lower... yes things still go to the rich but with the chests everyone was benefiting so it evens it out.

The chests I imagine were released to celebrate the release of cross platform and a brand new server... so I highly doubt it's Otm being lazy. Every update gets me excited and keeps me playing, I don't know about anyone else tho.

You know nothhhinngggg about me haha. I have 3-4 toons, all on different servers, that have rares on them. One of which is worth a ton. I already have everything I need in terms of fashion, i just care about what others want and most want these chests.

And a lot of people also like to boast their super expensive white set they paid 10m for by wearing it around. It is normal in a game to have different kinds of people, including those who like to collect rare items.
The economy argument was fine, it just gets desperate when you try to counter it by saying the economy has gotten better thanks to the chests, which is false.

You are contradicting yourself and not answering properly when you say "things still go to the rich but with the chests everyone was benefiting so it evens it out": no, the chests are being sold overpriced by people who pay real life money to obtain them, thus being bought by other wealthy players. Nothing is being evened out, those who can afford to buy revival chests are mostly the same people as those who already own many sets of fashion.
On my server I've noticed an unjustified increase on some fashion pieces that would normally be considered quite junky, not sure if people got an ego because they managed to get their hands on old fashion or something else but the prices did increase.


I will keep saying that the chests were a very lazy way out of making real content, if OTM genuinely wants to celebrate the release of a new server, maybe they should come up with new content, not a "recycling old fashion and betraying players with one stone". This kind of item takes no effort to make and is not worthy of a celebration. This is the bare minimum that you should be able to expect from a game where many spend thousands of euros and hours on.

Good for you then if you have all you want but sounds suspicious that you simply "care about others" as you seem to really be taking these revival chest discussions to heart.

The only reason why fashion is so much higher now is because the chests were removed and yea, people went on an ego. During the chests life time however, prices were tremendously lower, saw the rarest spirit charm sell for a little over 1m.

Otm already has 2 planned updates in the near future so content isn't a problem. Who cares if it was Otm being lazy or not, they were making money which I am 100% ok with as a true loyal player.

Just sad that you put your fashion before Otms profit, hundreds of players that wanted the chests, and an economy that everyone can benefit off of. But yea, people like you push for anything that only benefits yourself. Honestly most people don't care if you spent thousands on this game, that was your choice and mistake and everyone else shouldn't have to feel the effects of your mass spending

The only reason why fashion is so much higher now is because the chests were removed and yea, people went on an ego. During the chests life time however, prices were tremendously lower, saw the rarest spirit charm sell for a little over 1m.

Otm already has 2 planned updates in the near future so content isn't a problem. Who cares if it was Otm being lazy or not, they were making money which I am 100% ok with as a true loyal player.

Just sad that you put your fashion before Otms profit, hundreds of players that wanted the chests, and an economy that everyone can benefit off of. But yea, people like you push for anything that only benefits yourself. Honestly most people don't care if you spent thousands on this game, that was your choice and mistake and everyone else shouldn't have to feel the effects of your mass spending

You're absolutely right. It would have been better if those players hadn't spent thousands on chests. Just think, then none of this fashion and charms would be available at all along with plat items to level.

The effects of the chests were different on each server. On a couple Android servers when the minority were using plat to provide chests, they were more expensive than normal as the non plat buyers were at the mercy of the plat buyers. So the plat buyers that were already rich stayed rich. Those that opened chests and threw thr fashion in AH, didn't sell it cheaper than it normally would have. This was without knowing the chests would be going away. So even though there were 6 pairs of purple fg pants being sold, they weren't reduced in price. I can't say what it was like on anything but Donn and Fingal. And, really, you might have a few dozen more players with some rare fashion, it's not like the majority would be walking around with it. So these chests didn't do much but keep the rich richer and those that had a ton of gold into some rares. And the plat buyers were primarily opening the chests instead of selling them and selling off what they didn't want.

Might as well throw the fash on thr plat store. Non plat buyers are dependent on plat buyers to supply these items anyway.

And yet I'm still waiting for a good argument on why revival chests should be back, all I'm getting is an attempt at guilt tripping people.

Bringing back those chest will give new players even included myself to get a chance to get some not just new players but old as well , not just that , it sure would make the game some money , for the better ,

Bringing back those chest will give new players even included myself to get a chance to get some not just new players but old as well , not just that , it sure would make the game some money , for the better ,

Explain to me why, as new player, you should have access to very old rare items people have been saving up for years.

Well you see everybody' else is selling old fash and charms etc stuff like that in the auction , so I mean obviously that right there is giving everybody a chance to who has the money to have it , It only makes a rare when yes it's been years like you said ,you see that everybody is selling it high prised in the auction , but being able to give the option for everybody will reduce the prices , Well so it's a 50/50 it's a good thing I guess you could say, but then bad

Well you see everybody' else is selling old fash and charms etc stuff like that in the auction , so I mean obviously that right there is giving everybody a chance to who has the money to have it , It only makes a rare when yes it's been years like you said ,you see that everybody is selling it high prised in the auction , but being able to give the option for everybody will reduce the prices , Well so it's a 50/50 it's a good thing I guess you could say, but then bad

The reason it's expensive is because is old and few people have it. The people that held onto it have the right to put prices on what they want. Just because it's expensive doesn't mean it shouldn't be, i really don't get that logic.

Bringing back those chest will give new players even included myself to get a chance to get some not just new players but old as well , not just that , it sure would make the game some money , for the better ,

Explain to me why, as new player, you should have access to very old rare items people have been saving up for years.

When the items originally came out, some players would have been able to afford to buy a full set immediately and could have camped the castle to buy as soon as someone offered them for sale. Most would be like yourself and needed to grind and farm and maybe buy plat occasionally for a long time in order to compete a rare set.
Now would be exactly the same. Some players could afford to buy items as soon they go for sale. But many more would need to do the same as you, ie grinding, farming and buying occasional plat when they have spare rl cash.
The drop rate in the new chests would be the same as in the original chests, so the ultra rare items would still be very rare, with only a few able to buy a full set now. The majority of players able to buy compete sets are most likely to be old end game players anyway. Unless a new player is prepared to spend vast amounts of rl cash to buy plat, they won't be able to afford to buy a complete set now.
OTM need cash flow, they need players buying plat in order to stay in business. Old players have everything they need and earn enough in game to buy their consumables. They have bought their plat in the past but no longer need to buy more. So OTM need to keep the newer players buying plat with chest sales. OTM are a small team, their resources are busy designing new content and don't have spare resources to be continually creating new fashion as well. Now let's be honest here. Fashion adds zero to the actual playing of an MMORPG. It gives no benefit to the toon, it is purely aesthetic. Therefore in terms of priority, new game content will always be higher than new fashion.
OTM need to keep the cash coming in and the revival chests are a good way to do that. Many people are calling it lazy, but the reality is that the resources they have are all busy, and have been for a long time, working on the new content due soon. I'm sure if they had the spare capacity they would have released more fashion by now.
So here's the thing.
All those hoarders complaining, you will have just as much chance to obtain the rare fashion items as the new players. So why don't you all band together and between you buy up all the rare items from auction. Keep it all out of the hands of the new players. If you need to buy plat in order to do so, then even more to the good. If you really want to ensure what you have stays ultra rare, you could even drop all the items you buy, thus removing them completely from circulation.
With all the extra cash flow from you guys keeping your rare items rare, maybe OTM could even afford to hire a new member of staff, whose sole job is to design new fashion to be released every few months.

^^ well said man, you nailed it