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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#11
The developers have done an excellent job of better distinguishing class roles. A warrior should not be able to out dps a rogue of similar level. You cannot have it all. As a druid it would be absurd for me to ask to be able to do damage on par with a mage right? Warriors are super valuable. Really every class is amazing. You do get some wiggle room to chose more defensive or offensive orientations, but not to the extent that you can be on par with an offensive class. Warriors and Druids will (rightfully so) not be able to out damage a similar level Mage, Rogue, Ranger. But, those classes will never be able to tank as well as a warrior, or Heal and buff like a Druid.

If I am really reading into your message correctly, it is that you made your warrior during a time when you had the best of both worlds. Warriors could out damage rogues and also respec to be tremendous tanks. Now things have changed and rather than making a rogue if you want to be all out dps, you are upset because you have lost your offensive edge.

I got a druid and believe me if u get the rigth gear and abilities you can cause a lot damage The druid is perfect as is your choice if you be a healer or damage druid. You can choose how to play as druid .

we warriors cannot Choose you are tank or a tank and yes im upset as warrior because i Got nerfted when you start playing a year go you choose a class you pick it a class you choose to be a druid and complanit of disvantage your class have and the devs make u better , ok I choose to raise my warrior and druid over my rogue, ranger , mage. Because that was class to be. And inverted time and money on it , why a year later I got get fked just asking
Wait what so devs will refund me all the platinum and change all my gear and weapons to rogue. That way i can make a new rogue , in the bussines world i could sued for that when you change something the bad , better then what about the devs, Change my chart to a rogue with the same lvl and all warrior weps get fully refunded and all armor change to rogues or ranger i can live with that , the way i can enjoy it been fully dps , and dot feel like i waisted my time .
No more than a warrior can with the right gear and set up... Perhaps you are talking specifically about soloing here, but if not, I do not want to group with a warrior who is geared, skilled and attribute point allocated for dps. They will not be able to hold aggro which is certainly skill-based not damage based. And they will not have the defense or health pool to make a good partnership with a Druid. I guess I am not understanding what you want.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#12
Yet another whinging thread about a class wanting to be best in something they should not be. Almost like a rogue class wanting to be tank, or a mage wanting to heal like a druid.

In the general sense, for DPS warriors, you will not be able to out-DPS some other classes designed for it with a huge sacrifice on armor. As with all alternate builds, you will need to compromise armor for unique equipments such as the new Earthstone set, and DMG based dragon rings. You also do have a series of weapons to consider and skills preference that would close the gap and make you effective.

If your sole intention is to have warriors being best in DPS and yet having options to be best in tanking, you are requesting for an inbalance of the game to be made. If you do not have the aptitude to accept it and be creative to make it work, you might be better off making a rogue or ranger.

Personally i do not understand why you would have so many issues having to out-DPS other classes. Are other classes KS-ing you so often in non-boss fights that you have to do it? OR are you mostly just soloing even in bosses and hoping to win against a group.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#13
Yet another whinging thread about a class wanting to be best in something they should not be. Almost like a rogue class wanting to be tank, or a mage wanting to heal like a druid.

In the general sense, for DPS warriors, you will not be able to out-DPS some other classes designed for it with a huge sacrifice on armor. As with all alternate builds, you will need to compromise armor for unique equipments such as the new Earthstone set, and DMG based dragon rings. You also do have a series of weapons to consider and skills preference that would close the gap and make you effective.

If your sole intention is to have warriors being best in DPS and yet having options to be best in tanking, you are requesting for an inbalance of the game to be made. If you do not have the aptitude to accept it and be creative to make it work, you might be better off making a rogue or ranger.

Personally i do not understand why you would have so many issues having to out-DPS other classes. Are other classes KS-ing you so often in non-boss fights that you have to do it? OR are you mostly just soloing even in bosses and hoping to win against a group.

No im asking to be how it was why we had to sacriface is fair to Change the rules in the middle of the game to benefit some1 thas what otm did
if the warrior where broken at the beggining and you chose to play it was your decision but to be put on this situation is no fair. Im just askin why we took the worst change it and yeah after this pacrh is worst.

And the same applied to other class u can used radiant or greater sthrone to change ypur stats .

I got all those you are asking for it this are my stats
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Last edited by Fromen on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#15
I think there's a good degree of balance within this game already. Yes there will always be things to do better, though i do not think this is one of them.



No is not we are talking about regular training if a rogue or archer want to make your life misserable as warrior they will do it stoping your progress in the game, So is unbalanced if was 50:50 chance is ok. Is part of the game but 3k poinst of damge. When u you only had hit once is totally unfair.
what i sayin is they change it otm did after the fact . So why if we put 10 months as the game was before .
Last edited by Fromen on Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#16
The developers have done an excellent job of better distinguishing class roles. A warrior should not be able to out dps a rogue of similar level. You cannot have it all. As a druid it would be absurd for me to ask to be able to do damage on par with a mage right? Warriors are super valuable. Really every class is amazing. You do get some wiggle room to chose more defensive or offensive orientations, but not to the extent that you can be on par with an offensive class. Warriors and Druids will (rightfully so) not be able to out damage a similar level Mage, Rogue, Ranger. But, those classes will never be able to tank as well as a warrior, or Heal and buff like a Druid.

If I am really reading into your message correctly, it is that you made your warrior during a time when you had the best of both worlds. Warriors could out damage rogues and also respec to be tremendous tanks. Now things have changed and rather than making a rogue if you want to be all out dps, you are upset because you have lost your offensive edge.

I got a druid and believe me if u get the rigth gear and abilities you can cause a lot damage The druid is perfect as is your choice if you be a healer or damage druid. You can choose how to play as druid .

we warriors cannot Choose you are tank or a tank and yes im upset as warrior because i Got nerfted when you start playing a year go you choose a class you pick it a class you choose to be a druid and complanit of disvantage your class have and the devs make u better , ok I choose to raise my warrior and druid over my rogue, ranger , mage. Because that was class to be. And inverted time and money on it , why a year later I got get fked just asking
Wait what so devs will refund me all the platinum and change all my gear and weapons to rogue. That way i can make a new rogue , in the bussines world i could sued for that when you change something the bad , better then what about the devs, Change my chart to a rogue with the same lvl and all warrior weps get fully refunded and all armor change to rogues or ranger i can live with that , the way i can enjoy it been fully dps , and dot feel like i waisted my time .
No more than a warrior can with the right gear and set up... Perhaps you are talking specifically about soloing here, but if not, I do not want to group with a warrior who is geared, skilled and attribute point allocated for dps. They will not be able to hold aggro which is certainly skill-based not damage based. And they will not have the defense or health pool to make a good partnership with a Druid. I guess I am not understanding what you want.

So we got to be force to play as tanks you got to be kidding me , if the players choice to be dps or tank or hybrid , if the game was like that since the beginnig i will be ok so back then i would choose another class But to be force to be in this situation when u have tons of hours and a few thousand dollars on the game is fked
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#17
Fromen did you delete your previous post or someone else? I was responding to it and is said it didnt exist.
I delete and merged with the first reaplied

But is truth if you put many hours and hundreds of dollar to a class to be dps warrior why to be changed to tank warriors only , so if all other players mustly rogues are telling me to make a rogue to be a dps charter this is funny this like the few druids the got mages skill they get to keeping , so why no older warriors get to keep to be dps and newer warrios tank only somis their chose to be tanks only.

So if now im force to make a rogue dps why not devs change my char with same lvl same armor in rogue and fully reibursth all my lux items and weapons so i can rebuild my as dps rogue the way i can make that will be fair , because before was your choose to be dps or a tank and hold your ground againts other class dps
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Re: Fix the broken warrior no all warrior want to be tanks

#20
Fro sorry i out dps you and laws :)
No problem you know we have this conversation before the happening is no about ks is just the warriors are
Broken, is part of the game to get ks but amazme that 2 heavy damage warriors got ks by you so we are broken
Well with knuckle blades i average 400 damage on every mob, with rapid shot my speed is 850 and it lasts for 23 seconds soo .85x23x400=7820 average damage from me alone you gotta admit that is a tough challenge to beat
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